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Fedora Core Internet News writes about a major mark for Fedora 10 release. Fedora remains the only distribution to publish it's statistics and gathering methods openly and transparently. In any case, they reached 1 million active installations of Fedora Linux 10.
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niemau
Member since:
2007-06-28

"doesn't ubuntu default to pulseaudio too?


Yes but when Ubuntu does it, it's absolutely wonderful!
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oh, my. it's *usable* on 8.10, if all you need is basic sound support. on 8.04 it just flat-out didn't work right.

many apps are still audio-broken in ubuntu's 8.10 repos. not to mention, it's still not acceptable for people using linux for pro-quality audio work, especially on ubuntu (and ubuntu studio). and last time i checked ubuntu still doesn't make the pulseaudio jack module available. so, you really have to jump through hoops to get back to pre-pulse functionality if you have any special requirements.

i really have nothing against pulseaudio. but it certainly isn't (yet) the perfect audio solution for everybody, even by the developer's admission.

all that being said, fedora's default pulseaudio setup has been much more problem-free (from my experience) than ubuntu's.

blah.

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Quake Member since:
2005-10-14

Pulseaudio has been a nightmare for me. Sometimes, it took 90% off the processor and I had to kill it in order for the audio applications to work.

I removed that virus.. And I'm in heaven again.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Heh, Pulse has been both demon and savior, depending on the version I'm running and what hardware I'm running it on. On some hardware configurations I don't need it, but when I start dealing with certain USB audio devices that do not do hardware samplerate conversion or do it badly, or internal cards that have this difficulty (ens 1370/1371 and various 8x0 cards), then Pulse is sometimes the only thing that even allows the audio system to function well. Without it, problems can range from artifacts in the audio to a nasty, ear-splitting hiss/screetch depending on what rates it attempts to mix together.
On the other hand, certain versions of Pulse have actually made it worse. Version 0.99.11, for instance, caused a nightmare with the soundcard I was using, causing the audio to only play for perhaps a quarter second before abruptly cutting off.
Pulse, I think, will eventually become a good solution. I do not think, however, that it was ready for general consumption when Fedora and Ubuntu started pushing it, nor do I believe it is at that level now. It still has quite a few quirks and a good deal of latency under certain tasks.

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sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

Pulse audio, also known as "Let's re-invent ESD again, because it worked so well the last five times," is truly horrifying. Rather than solve the Linux audio problems correctly someone decided it would be a good idea to write a user space management program with all of the problems of the old management programs, only it's better now honest.

Some of the /theory/ in pulseaudio sounds great and should be in the kernel. The implementation suffers from acute "Doesn't Work" syndrome and has the lovely effect of making something simple really complex. It's nice that someone cares about audio, but it would be nicer if they wouldn't introduce yet-another universal audio API. If there's something wrong with alsa, fix alsa.

If there's nothing wrong with alsa, why are we using pulseaudio?

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