Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Feb 2009 11:53 UTC, submitted by B12 Simon
Xfce It took them two years, but the Xfce team has just released Xfce 4.6.0, with a whole slew of improvements. Xfce started back in 1996 as a Linux equivalent of CDE, but soon diverged from that goal to stand on its own two feet, and by now it's safe to say that Xfce is the best of the rest - after KDE and GNOME. Xfce 4.6.0 seems to cement them further into that position.
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RE: Oh well
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 27th Feb 2009 13:27 UTC in reply to "Oh well"
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"Xfce started back in 1996 as a Linux equivalent of CDE, but soon diverged from that goal...."

And that's why I stopped using it.

And you feel the need to advertise that? Seriously, who cares?

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RE[2]: Oh well
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 27th Feb 2009 13:31 in reply to "RE: Oh well"
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And you feel the need to advertise that? Seriously, who cares?

I do, because I agree. CDE is too good to not be updated to modern times. CDE is still the best DE ever made, for the simple reason it was the first and last DE that MADE SENSE. You didn't need to think - it just did exactly what you expected it to do.

It's a shame something like that doesn't exist anymore.

Edited 2009-02-27 13:31 UTC

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RE[3]: Oh well
by spiderman on Fri 27th Feb 2009 16:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh well"
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This is not possible. If you want CDE, you've got to use CDE.
If you want an improved CDE, then it is not CDE anymore.
XFCE is not CDE and is wonderful. I use it everyday with full satisfaction. Every release is better than the previous one.
On my netbook, this is the only DE I've found that let me put everything vertically (including window list) to save vertical space. There is windowmaker but XFCE is much more usable.
So it is not CDE, good! If I wanted CDE, I would use CDE!
At least tell us what you think is wrong with XFCE that make you prefer the way it was when it was closer to CDE!
You don't like having the possibility to have several dock? Just use one! You don't like antialiased fonts? Just don't use them! You like your desktop acting as a window list? Use it like that!
What don't you like precisely?
If all you don't like about it is that it is not CDE, you've got to know that CDE does actually still exist. It didn't disappear.

Edited 2009-02-27 16:06 UTC

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RE[3]: Oh well
by vitae on Fri 27th Feb 2009 20:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh well"
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CDE is the environment to check out. CDE made me realise just how much KDE, GNOME, Windows, and OS X suck.

It's impossible to take you serious when you say things like that.

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RE[3]: Oh well
by Dasher42 on Sat 28th Feb 2009 00:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh well"
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You know, Thom, I agree with you on some points about CDE, but generally when I've had to use it I find it to be in the way. I am highly keyboard-centric and want things to respond as instantly as possible; alt-tabbing past the dock is an extra keystroke I don't want. The drawers are okay, but I find that they occupy screen real estate I'd rather keep unless I do the extra work to shut them down. Likewise for all the extra widgets on that dock; more screen real estate consumed. And if I want to get at everything I iconified, I have to get all the windows out of the way.

It seems to me that OSX's dock with an added option to keep its stacks open would have most of the merit that I see. KDE's Plasma could feature plasmoids on the desktop for minimized windows if you so pleased. I'm not sure we've left the realm of subjective preference though.

Usage patterns differ, obviously, and to me an app-centric Dock and command-Tab switching, consistent keyboard shortcuts, a nice tabbed terminal, and generally high responsiveness keeps OSX in my top spot for interfaces I use.

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