Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Feb 2009 11:47 UTC
Apple A few days ago, Apple surprised everyone by releasing the first beta of Safari 4, the company's latest version of their WebKit browser. While I generally love Safari on the Mac (my browser of choice on that side of the fence), I've never felt as comfortable with it on the Windows side of things. In any case, this latest beta has made a very bold move in the interface department, and I'm sad to say that it's not for the better. Let me explain where it went wrong for Apple.
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Verenkeitin
Member since:
2007-07-01

Simultaneously screwing up two well established interface components because Google did it?

I can understand the reasoning that in a browser title bar and tab title are sort of redundant, but instead of making title bar a tab bar, there should be an option to get rid of the title bar.

It is interesting how supposedly artsy and usability savvy Apple keeps making stupid OS interface decisions:
- OS X window controls are basically o , o and o.
- iPod and iTunes have an o that means you have not started to listen a podcast marked with it. Not that it says so anywhere.
- The sort of slider with two positions for on and off I have seen on iPhone and OS X makes it pretty much impossible to to tell if it is on or off.
- Resizing from only one corner. WTF?
- The global menubar is good according to Fitt's Law, but absolutely wrong considering Gestalt Laws and despicable MODALITY it brings.
- Dock. No matter who implements it, it sucks.

I could go on, but I'll just end by saying that Apple hardware design is way better than their software interface design.

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dragossh Member since:
2008-12-16

- OS X window controls are basically o , o and o.

They are colored. After you hover over them, you know what each one does.

- iPod and iTunes have an o that means you have not started to listen a podcast marked with it. Not that it says so anywhere.

Logic says so. You wouldn't mark with an o a podcast that was already listened to, would you?

- The sort of slider with two positions for on and off I have seen on iPhone and OS X makes it pretty much impossible to to tell if it is on or off.

I think a lot of people can tell quite well. When it says Off it's off and when it says On (and it even turns blue) it's on. What's so hard to grasp?

- Dock. No matter who implements it, it sucks.

It's quite good in my opinion, maybe you're just accustomed to the taskbar. A Windows 7-like Dock would be neat though.

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

"- OS X window controls are basically o , o and o.

They are colored. After you hover over them, you know what each one does.
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Just got me thinking...while personally I don't have particularly anything against this setup, what about people that are colour-blind to one degree or another?

BTW - I'd like to have a mainstream, polished interface that depends on colour as little as possible, is mostly just neutral b&w (or perhaps a toggle switch that does that, also with, for example, activating some user style in the browser that assures things will remain contrasted)

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stooovie Member since:
2006-01-25

One corner resizing in OSX is an abomination of UI design. Amount of resize/move/resize again is unbearable, even more so in a floating windows paradigm that is so central to OSX window management.

Is there an utility that allows users to resize OSX windows from all sides and corners?

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thebackwash Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes. It's called NuclearMouse. http://628weeks.com/projects/NuclearMouse/ You might also try MondoMouse, http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse or WindowDragon http://windowdragon.sourceforge.net/

Personally, I like MondoMouse the best. You can resize w/o clicking.

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