Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 1st Mar 2009 17:26 UTC, submitted by kaiwai
Hardware, Embedded Systems Long-time OSNews reader Kaiwai has written down his experiences with his Acer Aspire One, Linux, and Windows. He concludes: "After a hectic few weeks trying to get Linux to work, I am back to square one again - a netbook running Windows XP SP3 as it was provided by Acer when I purchased it. I gave three different distributions a chance to prove themselves. I expected all three distributions to wipe the floor with Windows XP - after all, these are the latest and greatest distributions the Linux world have to offer. There has been at least 7 years since the release of Windows XP for Linux to catch up to Windows XP and from my experience with Linux on this said device - it has failed to step up to the plate when it was needed."
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lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

Thom is a professional troll (ie a "journalist"). You can't have page views without controversy and drama. That's why he posts these stories, because he knows it will make him $$$.


The best response, however, is merely to point out how the issues can be worked around. It doesn't hurt also to point out how the issues arise when they are put in place by parties other than those who write the software. There is absolutely no point, however, in denying that there are issues. Let's keep the discussion focussed on how any issues may be overcome.

Although, having said that, and given Thom's passion about denying issues with DRM, malware, slowness, and other anti-user features of Microsoft's OS, perhaps it is expected beahviour on OSNews to just loudly deny any issues and slander anyone who brings them up?

Edited 2009-03-01 23:36 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Interesting how people are attributing all sorts of opinions to me before I've even said a word myself about this article.

You see, I disagree with Kaiwai. Ubuntu ran just fine on my Aspire One, it took a little bit of work, yes, but worked fine after that. The reason I moved to Windows on this thing was for practical reasons, the biggest among which was the fact that my university's wifi is so bloody messy and complicated it's just too much of a hassle to set up on Linux - not Linux' fault, as I've said in a few articles, but my university's.

Linux works just fine on the Aspire One. Yeah it takes some work if you want to install Linux on the Windows version, but hey, if you want to install Windows XP on the Linux version (like I had to) it's a bitch as well: driver hunt, preparing a bootable USB Windows XP installer, it's all a mess.

The problems with some of the people in here is that they block out anything I say that does not fit within their paradigm of "Thom is anti-Linux" or "Thom is anti-Apple", despite the fact that I use all of those EVERY DAY, and have a lot of fun doing so. I advocated open standards and Linux support in universities, but me doing so doesn't fit within lemur2's ideas about me, so you never hear him about that - he much rather just attack me and paint me as anti-Linux troll, for instance.

Seriously, you guys need to grow up. Running OSNews is a tight-rope job, and I'm just SICK of people telling me I'm only in it for the money or to make Linux look bad. I spent countless hours EVERY day, even in the weekends, working on a website dedicated to bringing the news on all sorts of alternative platforms, drawing people to this website with stories about mainstream software, and then hoping they see the news about the little guys as well, doing my part in spreading awareness about alternatives.

What the frak have YOU to show for yourself, lemur2? mrhasbean? sirhomer? How many hours a day do you spend on writing about Linux, BSD, Haiku, Syllable, and whatnot, trying to do your part in making the computer landscape more diverse? Or is all you have to show for yourself comment after comment attacking folks like me, who work hard every day on bringing you all the news?

Seriously, I'm fed up with you crybabies. If you can't stand your pet project getting a few clubs with the criticism stick, then please stick to the single-interest fanboy sites on the web.

Seriously. Bunch of ungrateful asses.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Well said, Thom, and way overdue in saying it. You've more patience than I ;) .

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I advocated open standards and Linux support in universities, but me doing so doesn't fit within lemur2's ideas about me, so you never hear him about that - he much rather just attack me and paint me as anti-Linux troll, for instance.


I wouldn't have claimed you are an anti-Linux troll, but rather that you seem to be inordinately pro-Windows. You are undoubtedly in denial about some of the issues with Windows, and you website has a plethora of "how good will Windows 7 be?" blurbs frequently posted by yourself.

If we are going to speculate on what will soon be possible on netbooks, then rather than post over and over about how Microsoft have promised that Windows 7 will run great on netbooks (albeit without including any actual applications, mind you) ... how about some balance in enthusiasms?

Perhaps we could point out that given available pre-releases, that the soon-to-be-released Linux distributions Kubuntu 9.04 and Mandriva 2009.1 will both support KDE 4.2 fully working out-of-the box on netbooks, both be ultra-quick to boot up, and that KDE 4.2 will in turn allow for some serious flexibility in setting up a nice desktop to work with:

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/20-all-new-tips-kde-42

In fact you can customise a number of different desktop arrangements (intended for various modes of working) and save them as named desktop configurations. You can switch your netbook desktop from one to another mode just by loading the appropriate desktop configuration. Flexibility and power like this is simply not available in any other desktop. Mind you, it would be needed to mention that one should turn off the compiz-like desktop effects bling, because a netbook just isn't up to that.

Perhaps some balance to the unfortunate negativism of Kaiwai's experiences could be introduced by making people aware of soon-to-be-available innovative features like these? After all, there is no end to the articles on OSNews on what might soon be available in the Windows world.

Edited 2009-03-02 00:59 UTC

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nobody Member since:
2006-06-02

I don't envy you Thom. I once asked on your blog why you bother... I hope your answer is still as applicable now as it was back then.

Your contributions are appreciated by some of us; the silent majority if you will.

Keep it up.

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transom Member since:
2009-03-02

please, since you run this place, make the necessary adjustments so that *every comment on your entire site* will *stop* showing up as headlines in Google News searches? All one need do is search Google News for "linux" and the results are festooned with links to *each and every single comment* on this site and your Newmobilecomputing site.

That the bulk of said comments tend to be about how awful Linux is is sheer coincidence I'm sure.

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transom Member since:
2009-03-02

"What the frak have YOU to show for yourself, lemur2? mrhasbean? sirhomer? How many hours a day do you spend on writing about Linux, BSD, Haiku, Syllable, and whatnot, trying to do your part in making the computer landscape more diverse?"

Good Lord.

You certainly are a self important gasbag aren't you?

How dare anyone have the temerity to question your buddy's moronic "review"? Between this little tantrum and him telling people to "pull your head out of your ass", you guys come off like a couple of serious retards.

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