Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 1st Mar 2009 17:26 UTC, submitted by kaiwai
Hardware, Embedded Systems Long-time OSNews reader Kaiwai has written down his experiences with his Acer Aspire One, Linux, and Windows. He concludes: "After a hectic few weeks trying to get Linux to work, I am back to square one again - a netbook running Windows XP SP3 as it was provided by Acer when I purchased it. I gave three different distributions a chance to prove themselves. I expected all three distributions to wipe the floor with Windows XP - after all, these are the latest and greatest distributions the Linux world have to offer. There has been at least 7 years since the release of Windows XP for Linux to catch up to Windows XP and from my experience with Linux on this said device - it has failed to step up to the plate when it was needed."
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kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

Ah, sugar buns, I am not using an acer oem cd - the oem cd provided was one bought through retail channels with SP2 pre-merged. In other words, what YOU saw was ME using a retail copy of Windows XP to install onto that device.

Again, this is not a Windows XP OEM from Acer, it has NONE of the drivers merged into the cd as the cd was bought via retail. For arguments sake, it is a retail copy of Windows XP. Yes, I did require downloading the drivers - but unlike the Linux world, they could be all easily obtainable through the Acer support FTP.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Ah, sugar buns, I am not using an acer oem cd - the oem cd provided was one bought through retail channels with SP2 pre-merged. In other words, what YOU saw was ME using a retail copy of Windows XP to install onto that device.

Again, this is not a Windows XP OEM from Acer, it has NONE of the drivers merged into the cd as the cd was bought via retail. For arguments sake, it is a retail copy of Windows XP. Yes, I did require downloading the drivers - but unlike the Linux world, they could be all easily obtainable through the Acer support FTP.


This is a complaint about Acer, not as you seem to imagine a complaint about "the Linux world".

Here is what "the Linux world" has tried to do for you:
http://www.linux4one.it/
"What's linu4one

Linux4one is an Italian distribution studied to work out of the box on Acer's Aspire One Netbook. Very well configured, the distribution is perfect also for those who are less experts.
Light version Characteristics

* Lxde desktop manager;
* Space occupied on disk: 1.5 gb;
* 40 Seconds boot time;
* Active Osd (meaning that if you press fn plus f7 or the wifi button the action icon appears, also present in the current 1.1 private beta testing);
* the wif led now turns off if the relative button is pressed (same as above);
* Functioning bluetooth (as above);
* eeepc 701 support;
* other improvements.....

Full version Characteristics

* Personalized kernel
* Reduced Boot times (even with SSD)
* Functioning hardware from the start, including SD readers (the left doesn't act as Storage Expansion but as regular Card reader) and wireless led
* Minimum disk writing (log. etc.) to preserve duration
* Various optimizations to enhance the system's reaction times
* OSD for special keys
* Netbook Remix Interface
* Italian and English language (other languages will be added as well)
* Based on ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS ( 3 year support) resulting in repository access
* Kernel 2.6.28, Openoffice 3, Netbok manager 0.7 and VLC with codec
* Prelminary support for Asus eeepc 710"



Downloadable from the one spot. All drivers included. Free access to over 20,000 additional packages, browseable and installable via the one common secure interface. Guaranteed malware-free.

Enjoy.

Edited 2009-03-02 11:08 UTC

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

So the best you can do is provide me with a link to an obscure linux distribution from Italy which I would never have known about had you not provided me a link to it.

The opportunity for 'Linux' to make its way onto my Netbook was last week, not today. Where were you and your distribution one week ago when I was trying to get Linux working? where was this distribution? if it is so damn useful then it should be appearing when I put acer aspire one linux distribution in google.

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

This is a complaint about Acer, not as you seem to imagine a complaint about "the Linux world".

Tut, tut. Stop blaming the manufacturer please. This is a complaint about the Linux world, and the complaint is that you cannot easily add hardware and software support to any distribution as easily as he has laid out there with the Windows alternative.

Why?

1. Desktop development is piss-poor in the Linux world as it is, and certainly with what some have chosen to use.

2. Getting third-party software available in a sane format is not possible on any distribution. This has nothing to do with a standard package format as manufacturers would do it if it was available in even one distribution.

3. Getting third-party software installed for an end user is a whole world of hurt unless it comes within a repository somewhere - if you're lucky.

I'm afraid this is not good enough.

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ReeBop Member since:
2009-03-01

"Sugar buns"? Since I'm 20 years your senior, that is not worthy of me commenting further. Did I mention any "OEM" CDROM? No. I said "off the shelf" as in from your computer store or even Wal-Mart. I do not consider an OEM CDROM an "off the shelf" boxed product. I certainly know you didn't use an Acer CDROM as I purchased mine from Amazon.com fully aware that they did not offer a CDROM for restoration purposes. Actual Acer CDROMs are $40 extra. With that being said, I saw nothing in your article stating that you used your OEM cdrom to do a Windows XP install from scratch. You did mention that you went through the initial booting steps such as I did when I unpacked my unit so I made the assumption you had the exact same experience I did. I can see that this will become a "vi vs. emacs" debate here so I'll leave this point for my next.

I want to revisit your comment about:

Yes, I did require downloading the drivers - but unlike the Linux world, they could be all easily obtainable through the Acer support FTP.


So everyday people will naturally and easily research and locate their needed drivers from the Acer FTP support site. I think not. At no time did I have to download source to any Linux kernel module driver and compile it. The Mandriva DVD contained everything I needed from the start and installed properly. My only issue was getting the unit's webcam to operate in Skype, for which I found a solution.

I am not going to say that all is perfect in the Linux world with installers and especially, documentation. I am going to say however that Linux has made great strides since I loaded SLS in the early 90's and (at least from the point of view of my Mandriva and Fedora experience) fares well against a company that was found in violation of the US Sherman Antitrust Act in the year 2000.

I do agree with several other posters in this comment thread that netbook (forgive me Psion) manufacturers make unfortunate choices in Linux distributions. I chose Mandriva for a specific reason that if I had any trouble, I would know how to solve the issue (a Mandriva / Mandrake user since version 5.2). I had only the single problem with the webcam setup, however. One thing that should be made clear though is that Linux is a kernel, the software you loaded were distributions. Your blog states "Linux review" when in fact you chose three different distributions. I chose Mandriva, read a little on user's feedback and did my install. You chose three others and did no research at all yet you did take the time to research Acer's FTP site.

Is changing the default installed operating system for the typical enduser? No. I do think the Acer would shine under Mandriva preinstalled. Mandriva Linux does exactly what I want in my Acer Aspire One.

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