Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 2nd Mar 2009 17:16 UTC
Debian and its clones eWeek has reviewed Debian 5.0, and concludes: "Version 5 of the Debian GNU/Linux open-source operating system offers the same top management tools and processor support that previous versions of the Linux operating system have. There also are a host of updates to open-source components, and the Linux distribution is still a great fit for servers and a solid desktop choice. However, the top reason for upgrading from version 4 may be the relatively short three-year security fix window, less than the coverage time offered with Ubuntu and Red Hat Enterprise Linux-derived CentOS."
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RE[2]: Debian is top
by vivainio on Tue 3rd Mar 2009 19:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Debian is top"
vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26


I installed it, and everything just worked. No tweaking whatsoever.


It involved a degree of tweaking for me (I installed kde). This is in comparison to Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10:

1. I had to unbreak the fonts (they looked pretty bad). Involved at least fontconfig and qt4 settings app, probably some other stuff I don't remember

2. Had to download install firefox (see #1,fonts on iceweasel looked horrible).

3. Had to install nvidia drivers. Yeah, Ubuntu 8.04 had the same problem - huge fonts in gdm.

4. Had to add myself to sudoers manually.


One last (rather cosmetic) thing with the installer remains: At installation, there is no easy selection between KDE, GNOME, XFCE, ... as main desktop environment. Only "Desktop", and then you get GNOME without further question.


Agreed. At least it should have warned that it's a gnome desktop. I installed Lenny because I wanted a conservative KDE distro, and had to install kde after-the-fact. Maybe some of the breakage was because of this.

I would still recommend Ubuntu 8.04 over Lenny for people with very little time for tweaking - for easy googleability of problems & solutions if nothing else. If you feel like taking a break from Ubuntu, Lenny is a good choice; it's pretty much the same thing, but not so much that it would get boring ;-).

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RE[3]: Debian is top
by cmost on Tue 3rd Mar 2009 22:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Debian is top"
cmost Member since:
2006-07-16

Agreed. At least it should have warned that it's a gnome desktop. I installed Lenny because I wanted a conservative KDE distro, and had to install kde after-the-fact. Maybe some of the breakage was because of this.

I would still recommend Ubuntu 8.04 over Lenny for people with very little time for tweaking - for easy googleability of problems & solutions if nothing else. If you feel like taking a break from Ubuntu, Lenny is a good choice; it's pretty much the same thing, but not so much that it would get boring ;-).


I think you should have gone straight to Mepis Linux! It has most if not all of the tweaks you had to do manually while still residing on the solid Debian Lenny Base and offering a fairly conservative (beautiful) KDE desktop. Mepis also has a lot of its own little applets that make mundane tasks idiot proof. You could have saved yourself a lot of time and trouble had you gone this route. :-)

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RE[4]: Debian is top
by joekiser on Thu 5th Mar 2009 01:11 in reply to "RE[3]: Debian is top"
joekiser Member since:
2005-06-30


I think you should have gone straight to Mepis Linux! It has most if not all of the tweaks you had to do manually while still residing on the solid Debian Lenny Base and offering a fairly conservative (beautiful) KDE desktop. Mepis also has a lot of its own little applets that make mundane tasks idiot proof. You could have saved yourself a lot of time and trouble had you gone this route. :-)


Seconded. I recently installed SimplyMEPIS 8.0 on my T61 after a daily update of openSUSE 11.1 killed my video drivers, and it has been a godsend. All of my devices were correctly configured (including suspend to RAM), and the speed increase of using a Debian based system has been phenominal. Little things like Flash and video codecs were installed out of the box, and wireless on my Intel 4965 actually works without a kernel panic, unlike Lenny. MEPIS is to Debian what PC-BSD is to FreeBSD or Mint is to Ubuntu. Correctly configured right out of the box, no worries. Highly recommended to anyone looking for a fast, stable KDE 3.5 desktop.

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RE[3]: Debian is top
by UltraZelda64 on Tue 3rd Mar 2009 23:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Debian is top"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

I would still recommend Ubuntu 8.04 over Lenny for people with very little time for tweaking - for easy googleability of problems & solutions if nothing else. If you feel like taking a break from Ubuntu, Lenny is a good choice; it's pretty much the same thing, but not so much that it would get boring ;-).

I've got plenty of help with Zenwalk (a Slackware derivative) by simply adding "ubuntu" to my Google searches. There's quite a bit that applies to all Linux distros, and is not Ubuntu-specific. Then again, some things (ie. how to install proprietary and patent-restricted software) may vary between distros. I've also noticed several things that are different not completely based on distro, but by whether GDM is set up to run (Ubuntu) or not (Debian, Slackware); this especially affects X.org drivers like, in my case, the proprietary nVidia ones.

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