Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 1st Mar 2009 17:26 UTC, submitted by kaiwai
Hardware, Embedded Systems Long-time OSNews reader Kaiwai has written down his experiences with his Acer Aspire One, Linux, and Windows. He concludes: "After a hectic few weeks trying to get Linux to work, I am back to square one again - a netbook running Windows XP SP3 as it was provided by Acer when I purchased it. I gave three different distributions a chance to prove themselves. I expected all three distributions to wipe the floor with Windows XP - after all, these are the latest and greatest distributions the Linux world have to offer. There has been at least 7 years since the release of Windows XP for Linux to catch up to Windows XP and from my experience with Linux on this said device - it has failed to step up to the plate when it was needed."
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RE[4]: Clueless
by segedunum on Wed 4th Mar 2009 13:02 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Clueless"
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Well, in a perfect linux world, they wouldn't have to worry about adding support, because everything would be in mainline...

But not everything can be in mainline because people write software and build hardware after it has been released. This simply results in people reformatting and reinstalling their distributions every six months just to get updated software. No one but enthusiasts are going to keep doing that and it's not good enough for the wider world.

...and if something isn't supported in one release you just upgrade the kernel package and there it is you hardware is supported!

Distributors cannot just offer a kernel upgrade willy-nilly to an already released distribution. It has support implications. Hardware support has to be added to an existing kernel. No one should have to wait for a kernel upgrade to get hardware support either. It just isn't as simple as you think it is.

The problem is that linux is a second class citizen to most hardware companies.

This hasn't really got a lot to do with this, and it's the usual excuse you get from the crowd. Linux distributors simply do not make it in any way easy to add hardware and software support after a distribution has been released. As such, those who might be interested just don't bother. This is killing any success Linux might have on Netbooks.

All resources are poured into making windows drivers and linux drivers are put on the back burner.

Linux drivers are just not easy to write and certainly not easy to get available to your users. There is no distribution that is giving people documentation on how to do it, make it easier and get people involved.

Things are improving, but it will take time. According to a lot of people here, his hardware will be supported out of the box in the next ubuntu release.

So he has to reformat and reinstall again as he waits for full support to become available? Pffffffffffffff.

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RE[5]: Clueless
by broken_symlink on Wed 4th Mar 2009 14:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Clueless"
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But not everything can be in mainline because people write software and build hardware after it has been released. This simply results in people reformatting and reinstalling their distributions every six months just to get updated software. No one but enthusiasts are going to keep doing that and it's not good enough for the wider world.


No one said you have to reinstall your entire system because the kernel was updated. The great thing about linux is that kernel and userland are separate.


Distributors cannot just offer a kernel upgrade willy-nilly to an already released distribution. It has support implications. Hardware support has to be added to an existing kernel. No one should have to wait for a kernel upgrade to get hardware support either. It just isn't as simple as you think it is.


Why can't they just offer a kernel upgrade? Most distributions do already, like Fedora, Ubuntu, ... And people have already mentioned how to add hardware support to an existing kernel. You just get a .deb or .rpm or whatever for the specific kernel version you are using and install it.


This hasn't really got a lot to do with this, and it's the usual excuse you get from the crowd. Linux distributors simply do not make it in any way easy to add hardware and software support after a distribution has been released. As such, those who might be interested just don't bother. This is killing any success Linux might have on Netbooks.


Again see above.


Linux drivers are just not easy to write and certainly not easy to get available to your users. There is no distribution that is giving people documentation on how to do it, make it easier and get people involved.


I personally don't think its a distribution's job to give support with writing drivers. The actual distribution of the driver yes, but again if the driver were in mainline, they wouldn't even need to do this.


So he has to reformat and reinstall again as he waits for full support to become available? Pffffffffffffff.


Again no one said he had to reinstall.

I think the only person who has the power to make what you want to happen a reality is Linus, who probably just doesn't care. He is not in this to take on Microsoft, which is what it seems like people like you want. This is just a hobby for him, and he happens to make money doing it.

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