Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Sep 2005 15:51 UTC, submitted by William Lahti
Linux The first snapshot release of Komodo, a next-generation Linux/.NET-based operating system, is now available. "A new desktop environment codenamed Dagon is now being developed with [D-Bus, Composite, Linux 2.6] to bring a new face of Linux to users. The environment is being developed around the Emotion graphics/UI toolkit to best make use of these new display and communication technologies as well as to provide a solid and useable interface for casual users." Get the latest snapshots from their FTP servers. Read more information for developers, users and enterprise users.
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RE[2]: Its the applications
by rayiner on Thu 22nd Sep 2005 20:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Its the applications"
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And it's to manage/lock user's desktops...

Kiosk, among other things.

and it's to centralize user/group management...


and it's to deliver software/patches easily...

It doesn't get much easier than having a custom APT proxy to selectively pass on upstream updates to clients.

and it's to have a decent Directory Service...


and it's to easily get reports on what's going on...

Most Linux software has excellent logging. You can also add things like SELinux to take it to the next level.

and it's to facilitate os deployment/disaster recover/backup...

Kickstart, live backups (via LVM), atomic filesystem (Reiser4), what more do you want?

and it's to do all above without sky-rocket science...

If you think any of the above is rocket science, you need to find a new line of work.

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RE[3]: Its the applications
by jeremy on Fri 23rd Sep 2005 01:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Its the applications"
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I think you are missing his point. (That is if he point is what I thought it was. ;) )

Sure Linux can do all of that. But it's more complicated and disconnected than it needs to be.

I agree all system admins should know how to setup everything listed but it should be easier. Why does it need to be complicated? To limit who can do it?

I think he is talking more about creating a combined system with tools that allow you to easly manage all of these things. Look at what apple has done so far with their server stuff. A large portion of it's open source but it's one contained unit when looking from the outside. They also offer you all the tools you need to complete any basic task with out much work.

Now I do a lot of OS X Server work and it does have it's problems (many) but I believe that's a spot the open source community should look at. Basically create OS X but open source. Integrate all of those items into one software package.

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RE[3]: Its the applications
by fury on Fri 23rd Sep 2005 16:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Its the applications"
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Great! But guess what. As a systems/application developer I will need to consult not one set of documentation but... jeez at least EIGHT sets of documentation.

I'm sorry but if you don't make a centralized OS, you are putting the responsibility of learning rocket science on the APPLICATION DEVELOPERS, where the rocket science should be on you. In fact, if it's not hard to develop it the OS, you did it wrong.

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