Linked by Nescio on Mon 9th Mar 2009 08:05 UTC
Apple Numerous irrelevant issues and feelings about them are ventilated in comments on the case. However, there are only two important issues. One is what the law is, the other is what we think the law should be.
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RE[4]: The right question
by Soulbender on Mon 9th Mar 2009 13:27 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: The right question"
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

It is a document describing the terms under which you are given the license you've purchased.


I haven't purcased a license. Does it say on the box that I do? Does the clerk inform me of this? Does the box say that where I can find the contract terms?
Not counting the Dutch, who are apparently morons, most countries has limitations on how much a company can deceive the customer.

In most places it doesn't though.


I'd argue that in most places it does, especially when it comes to post-sale limitations. In no other industry can a company impose restrictions on what you can do with a product after you've purchased it. Sure, they can void your warranty but that's all.
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RE[5]: The right question
by lurch_mojoff on Mon 9th Mar 2009 14:16 in reply to "RE[4]: The right question"
lurch_mojoff Member since:
2007-05-12

I haven't purcased a license. Does it say on the box that I do? Does the clerk inform me of this?

You never purchase software. Ever. You purchase a license to use said software. I mean, I don't even know what you think you're purchasing. It's a virtual product. There is nothing tangible (except for a license and sometimes a distribution medium) that you can own.

I'd argue that in most places it does, especially when it comes to post-sale limitations.

The burden of proof is on you.

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RE[6]: The right question
by Soulbender on Mon 9th Mar 2009 14:26 in reply to "RE[5]: The right question"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

You never purchase software. Ever.

Really. I can surely remember a time when there was no license nonsense.

There is nothing tangible (except for a license and sometimes a distribution medium) that you can own.


Electrons are tangible.
I'm really tired of this bogus argument. What do you own in a book? Is ink tangible? Is anything tangible? After all, it's all just atoms.
There's NO difference to print media other than the way the information is stored. Everything is else is just bullshit from a greedy industry that think it's more special than it is.

The burden of proof is on you.


No it isn't. The burden of proof is on the company attempting to impose unsound limitations after purchase.

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RE[5]: The right question
by rhavyn on Mon 9th Mar 2009 16:42 in reply to "RE[4]: The right question"
rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

"It is a document describing the terms under which you are given the license you've purchased.


I haven't purcased a license. Does it say on the box that I do? Does the clerk inform me of this? Does the box say that where I can find the contract terms?
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Yes, the outside of the box does. You really should go to a store and actually look at the boxes of Apple's software, you seem to be completely ignorant on the topic.

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