Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Mar 2009 17:04 UTC
AMD Recently, AMD spun off its manufacturing business in a partnership with the Abu Dhabi government into Global Foundries. Apparently, Intel isn't very happy about this, and has said in correspondence to AMD that the patent cross-license agreement from 2001 has now been broken by AMD.
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RE[3]: What's Intel up to?
by poundsmack on Mon 16th Mar 2009 18:57 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What's Intel up to?"
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2005-07-13

it doesn't appear to be like that. here's the run down.

1. Intel licenced technology to AMD and only AMD.
2. AMD helps spin a new company (consisting of it's old fab business and more) but this company is not a true subsidiary of AMD.
3. Intel did not give this new company the rights to use its IP. Nor does AMD's licence allow it to reliecence Intel's IP.
4. Intel just wants Global Foundries to play by the same rules everyone else does when a company needs to licence Intel's stuff.

its rather simple really, a lot of sites are just blowing it out of proportion.

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RE[4]: What's Intel up to?
by sbergman27 on Mon 16th Mar 2009 19:06 in reply to "RE[3]: What's Intel up to?"
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2005-07-24

If that's the case, and as long as Intel doesn't get paid twice, and as long as the cost is the same, that at least sort of sounds reasonable. Otherwise, I'd say that the situation needs to be monitored by the office of the Attorney General and the EC. After years of Microsoft's antics, I don't have a lot of patience left over for any Intel shenanigans. But at least I can vote with my wallet, depending upon how it turns out.

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RE[5]: What's Intel up to?
by broken_symlink on Mon 16th Mar 2009 19:34 in reply to "RE[4]: What's Intel up to?"
broken_symlink Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, I would think the whole reason Intel is going through with this is so they can be paid twice. Otherwise, whats the point?

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RE[4]: What's Intel up to?
by looncraz on Wed 18th Mar 2009 07:21 in reply to "RE[3]: What's Intel up to?"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

it doesn't appear to be like that. here's the run down.

1. Intel licenced technology to AMD and only AMD.
2. AMD helps spin a new company (consisting of it's old fab business and more) but this company is not a true subsidiary of AMD.
3. Intel did not give this new company the rights to use its IP. Nor does AMD's licence allow it to reliecence Intel's IP.
4. Intel just wants Global Foundries to play by the same rules everyone else does when a company needs to licence Intel's stuff.

its rather simple really, a lot of sites are just blowing it out of proportion.


It is very simple indeed, however you need a slightly corrected timeline:

1. AMD Licensed AMD-x64 to Intel in exchange for certain licensing from Intel.
2. Intel sends Atoms to be made at TMC fab, including AMD-x64 technology.
3. AMD spins off its own fabs to make a new foundry company.
4. Intel complains to AMD, AMD says 'by agreement: if you do it, so can we,' neither can give in without legal mediation as those "people" (I'm sure they're actually just lawyers) doing the talking on either side have no such rights.

Intel can say it one way, AMD another. Who is right depends on reading the agreement, which I haven't done yet.

In any event, if AMD is violating the agreement then so is Intel - which is EXACTLY what AMD says, in very clear and certain legalese ;-)

Given proper wording, it is possible that AMD's assertion (that they could revoke Intel's AMD-x64 license rights without itself losing the right to Intel I.P.) could indeed be true. Not that AMD would want this, it would almost certainly prevent any further licensing deals unless another series of lawsuits were to force Intel's hands. But, it could still possibly be done, in certain situations, by a first breach by either side.

--The loon

Edited 2009-03-18 07:23 UTC

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