Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 11:48 UTC, submitted by PLan
In the News In a move that would certainly shake up the computer industry quite a bit, IBM is reportedly in talks with Sun Microsystems about the possibility of IBM acquiring Sun. Sun is going through hard times at the moment, and has been actively looking for someone to be acquired by.
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RE[2]: why?
by linumax on Wed 18th Mar 2009 13:58 UTC in reply to "RE: why?"
linumax
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2007-02-07

But IBM already has DB2 and it's own JVM, both of which are ahead of Sun's offerings in some respects (eg. scalability). On the OS side, IBM is much interested and invested in Linux, a migration to Solaris would not happen.

IMHO buying out sun is more about getting Sun's customer base, which IBM is already migrating to its own offerings, as well as having more leverage in determining Java's future. IBM Symphony is also based off of OpenOffice and IBM is pushing it as a replacement for MS Office. This move could help them embolden Symphony.

I think it'll be good for everyone, as Sun is dying anyway, and any valuable technology they developed over the years has been open sourced. Any development in progress could use some IBM cash, and there's a much lower chance of Sun employees losing their jobs if they are acquired compared to just dying a slow death.

Edited 2009-03-18 14:13 UTC

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RE[3]: why?
by AbuHassan on Wed 18th Mar 2009 14:29 in reply to "RE[2]: why?"
AbuHassan Member since:
2008-08-26

I've been testing Lotus Symphony on my MBP for the last week or two and it is a very solid app.

It starts up faster than OO.org and appears to use a lot less memory while running.

Saying that, there are a few slightly annoying quirks but nothing that is a show stopper.

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RE[3]: why?
by segedunum on Wed 18th Mar 2009 16:14 in reply to "RE[2]: why?"
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2005-07-06

IBM Symphony is also based off of OpenOffice and IBM is pushing it as a replacement for MS Office. This move could help them embolden Symphony.

Symphony is a failure and I wish IBM would actually 'get' that they should change tac and learn from their failures in the face of Microsoft, Windows and Office. Lotus software is a shadow of its former self because IBM doesn't get that it is a platform rather than a product and the only way you'll make headway against Office now is to have something free.

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RE[4]: why?
by deathshadow on Sun 22nd Mar 2009 15:05 in reply to "RE[3]: why?"
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

IBM doesn't get that it is a platform rather than a product and the only way you'll make headway against Office now is to have something free.

Oh yes, the only way to compete with a product that costs legitimate businesses $380 per complete copy or $80 for individual slices of - is with something that you don't charge for, meaning you have significantly less development money in the pipe to work with.

OoO and Symphony are cute toys, but even compared to Office 97 they are like a trip in the wayback machine to 1993 in terms of 'standard functionality'. What is needed is serious development revenue and frankly, you don't have that when you combine dirty hippy FLOSS with a package that the die hard coding geeks probably don't spend their entire day relying on. (Which is why free as in freedom free as in beer thrives for things like Apache or mySQL, and feels like the poor relatives you pretend you aren't home for at christmas when it comes to desktop applications).

I mean, even the simplest of things like the fact that OoO and Symphony STILL kern text like sweetly retarded crack addicts - makes them still feel like toys.

On top of which, if you want where the real money is, you BETTER charge for it. Businessmen are leery of 'free as in beer' AND 'free as in freedom' because the question becomes "did you even GO to business school?"

Capitolism - don't knock it, it actually works fairly well.

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