Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 11:48 UTC, submitted by PLan
In the News In a move that would certainly shake up the computer industry quite a bit, IBM is reportedly in talks with Sun Microsystems about the possibility of IBM acquiring Sun. Sun is going through hard times at the moment, and has been actively looking for someone to be acquired by.
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a terrible thing
by ahmetaa on Wed 18th Mar 2009 14:19 UTC
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2005-07-06

that would be a terrible thing.

IBM would

- kill Solaris for sake of crappy aix
- kill Sun Java for sake of crappy ibm java
- kill netbeans for sake of eclipse or ratıonal crap
- kill glassfish for sake of bloated pig called Websphere
- kill servers (chaper)
- kill mysql for sake of db2

And unlike Sun products, apart from eclipse no IBM product is open source. This would be a terrible terrible thing for the IT industry.

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RE: a terrible thing
by Vanuatoo on Wed 18th Mar 2009 14:25 in reply to "a terrible thing"
Vanuatoo Member since:
2006-08-24

I totally agree that this would be a catastrophic event in the IT Industry.

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RE: a terrible thing
by JeffS on Wed 18th Mar 2009 15:05 in reply to "a terrible thing"
JeffS Member since:
2005-07-12

"
IBM would

- kill Solaris for sake of crappy aix
- kill Sun Java for sake of crappy ibm java
- kill netbeans for sake of eclipse or ratıonal crap
- kill glassfish for sake of bloated pig called Websphere
- kill servers (chaper)
- kill mysql for sake of db2
"


This is my fear, too - especially Netbeans and Glassfish, both of which are vastly superior to IBM's current offerings. Over the last year or so, Netbeans has seriously leapfrogged ahead of Eclipse. And Glassfish is quite nice, too. And practically anything is better than Websphere. Heck, a steaming pile of dung is better than Websphere. I've done other Java devs who have sworn to never take a contract that uses Websphere, ever again. The thing is a nightmare.

And oh yeah, both Swing and JavaFX will suffer bit rot, as IBM is the creator and principle maintainer of SWT.

All in all, I'd rather Sun got to HP, Dell, or Fujitsu.

I am in favor of Sun getting acquired. I just have serious doubts about Sun surviving long term on it's own. And being the owners/maintainers of Java, Sun getting acquired would be a good thing.

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RE: a terrible thing
by dagw on Wed 18th Mar 2009 17:03 in reply to "a terrible thing"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

- kill Solaris for sake of crappy aix

I doubt it. There are still a lot of Solaris users out there (some even running solaris on IBM hardware), and IBM want their support contract and consultancy money. Killing Solaris means that they'll have to move to another platform, moving to another platform means the posibility of moving to another vendor and all of a sudden IBM will be competing for customers they could have had 'for free'.

- kill Sun Java for sake of crappy ibm java

Probably more of slow merger than a quick killing. Yea, There'll eventually only be one JVM, but only after the best features from both have been mereged and IBM has has made damn sure that any customer switching from either JVM to the new JVM won't lose any features or performance.

- kill netbeans for sake of eclipse or ratıonal crap

Quite possibly, but since netbeans is open source it will probably survive if it really is that much better at certain things than eclipse.

- kill glassfish for sake of bloated pig called Websphere

Probably not in the short term for similar reasons as Solaris. You don't want to make your existing customers think about the posibility of switching vendors.

- kill servers (chaper)

Again I doubt it. IBM makes it's money from support, service and consultancy. They really don't care too much what hardware you run. Sure where there is overlap they probably won't keep two lines going, but where Sun does something interesting, like Niagara, I don't see IBM simply killing it.

- kill mysql for sake of db2

MySQL and DB2 play in two different leauges. If IBM is smart they'll use mysql as a gateway drug. Start you off on MySQL and once you hit a situation that MySQL can't handle offer you some very nice tools to easily migrate your database to DB2.

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