Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 11:48 UTC, submitted by PLan
In the News In a move that would certainly shake up the computer industry quite a bit, IBM is reportedly in talks with Sun Microsystems about the possibility of IBM acquiring Sun. Sun is going through hard times at the moment, and has been actively looking for someone to be acquired by.
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RE: Remember
by Laurence on Wed 18th Mar 2009 14:43 UTC in reply to "Remember"
Laurence
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2007-03-26

That Solaris is open source. It can not be killed, that is a good point of being open source. The open source community will continue development. And probably Solaris will be GPL so Linux can incorporate ZFS.


OpenSolaris is open source but Solaris isn't (or at least not in it's entirety)

Also, re-licensing (Open)Solaris as GPL would necessarily mean ZFS would become GPL too. Remember, one of the reasons ZFS's license was chosen was because it was incompatible with GPL.
Maybe IBM might back-track that, but I very much doubt it. ZFS is a sizable weapon to have in your arsenal if you're trying to push (Open)Solaris over Linux.

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RE[2]: Remember
by dvzt on Wed 18th Mar 2009 21:09 in reply to "RE: Remember"
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2008-10-23

Remember, one of the reasons ZFS's license was chosen was because it was incompatible with GPL.


Can you explain, where you have such information from?

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RE[3]: Remember
by Laurence on Wed 18th Mar 2009 21:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Remember"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26


Can you explain, where you have such information from?


Admittedly it's mostly hear-say, but I've read a few sources that have said the same thing as this:
"given that Sun has reportedly filed a huge number of patents covering ZFS and has refused to make them available for anything other than Solaris --- and there are senior Sun programmers who have on record stated that one of the reasons why Sun picked the CDDL was precisely because it was incompatible with GPL and Sun fears Linux ---- I wouldn't bet on Sun being willing to making a patent license available to a hypothetical alternate implementation of the ZFS format for Linux."

http://kerneltrap.org/node/8066

There's logic to the argument and, if it was a deliberate move, it certainly worked on me as I've recently switched one of my servers over from Linux to Nexenta.

Edited 2009-03-18 21:54 UTC

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RE[3]: Remember
by Valhalla on Thu 19th Mar 2009 07:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Remember"
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2006-01-24

Well, Danese Cooper who wrote the CDDL stated on debconf that the solaris kernel engineers had requested that the opensolaris licence be gpl incompatible. This was later disputed by Simon Phipps from sun, however he did not dispute it at the debconf (where he was present).

And I think it makes perfect sense for Sun to release key technology under a licence which means Linux can't snap it up and compete with them using their own technology. I really can't blame Sun, from a business perspective (and they are a business) I would have done the exact same thing.

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RE[2]: Remember
by Moulinneuf on Wed 18th Mar 2009 23:50 in reply to "RE: Remember"
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2005-07-06

Another option is they could dual license it and only develop the gpl one and modify the other one so that any change is atributed to them and you can keep them as long as you pay IBM for the privilege of closing their code.

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