Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 11:48 UTC, submitted by PLan
In the News In a move that would certainly shake up the computer industry quite a bit, IBM is reportedly in talks with Sun Microsystems about the possibility of IBM acquiring Sun. Sun is going through hard times at the moment, and has been actively looking for someone to be acquired by.
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RE[2]: Solaris is dead.
by sbergman27 on Wed 18th Mar 2009 19:56 UTC in reply to "RE: Solaris is dead. "
sbergman27
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2005-07-24

How is linux more flexible? I am curious what you have to back up that statement.

Well, I'd say that Linux has been demonstrated to be useful on a much broader range of different hardware than Solaris. IBM even put it on a writwatch, and uses it regularly on their mainframes. And pretty much everywhere in between where AIX's tight integration with the hardware doesn't make more sense. (AIX doesn't compete with Linux or Solaris as much as some might think.) Much of the reason that IBM was attracted to Linux was to unify their lines of servers. It depends upon the situation, of course. But I'd say that overall there's a pretty good basis for saying that Linux is more flexible today, in 2009. Especially at IBM.

And unlike Sun, they really have no reason to do an about face and push Solaris, except with Sun's existing Solaris customers. Likely, OpenSolaris would be truly opened up (as oposed to the "sort of open" joint copyright situation we see now) and it, and its community, will either float or sink based upon what that community is able to accomplish.

This purchase, if it actually occurs, could actually clean up the landscape a bit. I like the idea.

Edited 2009-03-18 19:58 UTC

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RE[3]: Solaris is dead.
by google_ninja on Wed 18th Mar 2009 21:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Solaris is dead. "
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2006-02-05

IBM and Sun have very different business models.

Sun builds platforms that integrate into (and perform well on) their hardware as a way to sell their hardware. They couldn't care less about solaris running on generic hardware other then the community building effect it has. If there are more people making the solaris experience better, the solaris experience may translate into SPARC sales down the line.

IBM transitioned a few years back from that same sort of thing into an "eSolutions" company. Their bread and butter is in consulting now, rather then selling hardware. Because of that it doesn't make sense to pour resources into developing and supporting an operating system when can contribute less resources to get an existing operating system to do what they want it to. It was a very clever move, I have a friend who works there who says it was a very big gamble that ended up paying off, but that it could have been the end of Big Blue.

I think that IBM is more interested in finally having control over the Java brand then anything to do with Solaris. What I don't like about that is that IBM is even more of a fan of big corporate standards consortiums that produce impractical specs very slowly, and that is the last thing Java needs more of.

I agree with what you were saying about opening solaris and that being a good thing for everyone else though.

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RE[4]: Solaris is dead.
by sbergman27 on Wed 18th Mar 2009 22:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Solaris is dead. "
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2005-07-24

They couldn't care less about solaris running on generic hardware other then the community building effect it has.

Especially when they already have an OS that does that, and in which they already have a marketing investment.

I think that IBM is more interested in finally having control over the Java brand then anything to do with Solaris.

That makes the most sense, yes.

I agree with what you were saying about opening solaris and that being a good thing for everyone else though.

I think that finally finding out whether OpenSolaris will sink or swim on its own is ultimately a good thing no matter which way it turns out.

Edited 2009-03-18 22:31 UTC

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