Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 22:34 UTC
The GNOME team has released GNOME 2.26, the latest release in the 2.x release branch. As everyone knows, GNOME is a multi-platform open source desktop environment. The 2.26 release continues GNOME's policy of incremental updates to a stable base, and as such, it comes packed with a boatload of new features.
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Member since:2005-11-21
"Well, no wonder all major distros ship it as the default desktop.
The top ranking distributions, according to Distrowatch by page hits:
1 Ubuntu 2339 - GNOME is default
2 openSUSE 1683 - KDE/GNOME equal
3 Mint 1524 - GNOME is default, but KDE4 version is in work
4 Fedora 1369 - KDE/GNOME equal
5 Debian 1258 - KDE/GNOME equal
6 Mandriva 1042 - KDE is default
7 PCLinuxOS 1009 - KDE is default
8 MEPIS 689 - KDE is default
9 Puppy 666 - JWM is default
10 CentOS 654 - KDE/GNOME equal??
11 Sabayon 628 - KDE is default
12 Arch 595 - GNOME is default
Sorry ... no soup for you. "
GDM is the default in Debian. GNOME is the default login. You have to dpkg-reconfigure kdm and set KDE as the default, after you've installed Debian.
So, yes, GNOME is default in Debian.
Member since:2005-07-06
"Well, no wonder all major distros ship it as the default desktop.
The top ranking distributions, according to Distrowatch by page hits:
1 Ubuntu 2339 - GNOME is default
2 openSUSE 1683 - KDE/GNOME equal
3 Mint 1524 - GNOME is default, but KDE4 version is in work
4 Fedora 1369 - KDE/GNOME equal
5 Debian 1258 - KDE/GNOME equal
6 Mandriva 1042 - KDE is default
7 PCLinuxOS 1009 - KDE is default
8 MEPIS 689 - KDE is default
9 Puppy 666 - JWM is default
10 CentOS 654 - KDE/GNOME equal??
11 Sabayon 628 - KDE is default
12 Arch 595 - GNOME is default
Sorry ... no soup for you. "
Do you even know what default means? it means that if you do a default install of the said operating system - what have they setup as the default desktop to install. Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Mint and Fedora all default to GNOME by default; if you went 'next, next, next, next', you'll find that GNOME is installed by default.
As for who is default; it doesn't matter because quite frankly the choice of desktops is an individual choice and the number of distro's tell me more about the distribution communities preferences than any sort of declaration being made on which is superior.
Member since:2007-02-17
Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Mint and Fedora all default to GNOME by default; if you went 'next, next, next, next', you'll find that GNOME is installed by default.
AFAIK, that is true for Minti and Ubuntu main distributions, but for Ubuntu there is a variant available called Kubuntu where KDE is the default, and also there is soon to be a variant (it is in beta now) of Mint where KDE is the default.
Fedora and OpenSuse, AFAICR, both ship with both KDE and GNOME as choices, and you cannot simply go 'next, next, next' because when you get to the point where it asks what desktop you want, none is pre-selected by default. You must select one or the other before you can proceed with the installation.
As for who is default; it doesn't matter because quite frankly the choice of desktops is an individual choice and the number of distro's tell me more about the distribution communities preferences than any sort of declaration being made on which is superior.
Agreed.
However, that observation does not detract from my method of rebuttal of the original statement quoted.
Edited 2009-03-19 03:15 UTC
Member since:2005-07-06
Do you even know what default means? it means that if you do a default install of the said operating system - what have they setup as the default desktop to install. Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Mint and Fedora all default to GNOME by default; if you went 'next, next, next, next', you'll find that GNOME is installed by default.
http://en.opensuse.org/Image:11_1-install-006.png
So stop spreading lies please. Thank you.
Member since:2009-03-19
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Member since:2007-12-15
By repeating this "KDE is for hobbyist, GNOME for professionals" nonsense you will not make in more true. In my office there are four professionals - in telco business - and all of them use KDE as their desktop. They probably just don't know.
For instance, KIO for accessing remote servers, very hobbyist feature, I guess.
Member since:2005-07-06
If you look at the distros that businesses actually consider: RHEL Desktop, SLED, CentOS, Ubuntu, and maybe Debian... then its Gnome, Gnome, Gnome, Gnome, and Gnome, respectively.
Businesses consider these as replacements for Windows or OS X desktops do they? Hmmmmm. How many years have we had the year of the Linux desktop, of course, headed by distributions using Gnome as their default desktop ;-).
It's just a real pity that Windows, and to a lesser extent, OS X users are simply not interested in an open source desktop that has far less functionality than they already have. It's also a pity that Gnome is so inferior to Windows and OS X for developers that they're going split their sides laughing at you. Yer, real professional. It's also extremely ironic that we have a 'hobbyist' open source desktop that is a long way ahead here, and has the applications to go with it.
In fact, so professional we will get to Gnome 2.2.334, still be no further foward and still be comparing how high we can piss by talking about various distributors' choice of default desktop when it's just a laughably sad method of measuring 'success' because it's all that some people have.
Don't get me wrong. I think KDE is a good desktop, and perfectly fine for hobbyists.
You know, that's exactly what Windows and OS X users are saying to Gnome users. All three of them. If they've even heard of it that is.
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Member since:2007-10-08
This whole discussion on different distros and their default DEs is stupid but I nevertheless have to add something.
After some 7 years with SuSE/openSUSE, I recently switched to Ubuntu -- and I like it. However, one of my laptops is Ubuntu with KDE 4.2 (i.e., also Gnome installed but never used) and the other plain Kubuntu with KDE 4.2. I guess I'm an Ubuntu user in your statistics and thus give a point to Gnome. I don't mine, the default Ubuntu DE looked cool but I just happen to love KDE and didn't bother learning another one.
To me, more interesting is that the distro doesn't matter that much: KDE4 does everything and is pretty much the same everywhere. What's special with Ubuntu (compared to older openSUSE at least) is the xorg configuration -- or the lack of it. The system detects your screen automatically and everything just works! (In fact, you need to increase the virtual screen size to use a big external monitor but that's trivial compared to what it used be. And, yes, I also *have* noticed the different package system but that wasn't the reason to switch.)
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The top ranking distributions, according to Distrowatch by page hits:
1 Ubuntu 2339 - GNOME is default
2 openSUSE 1683 - KDE/GNOME equal
3 Mint 1524 - GNOME is default, but KDE4 version is in work
4 Fedora 1369 - KDE/GNOME equal
5 Debian 1258 - KDE/GNOME equal
6 Mandriva 1042 - KDE is default
7 PCLinuxOS 1009 - KDE is default
8 MEPIS 689 - KDE is default
9 Puppy 666 - JWM is default
10 CentOS 654 - KDE/GNOME equal??
11 Sabayon 628 - KDE is default
12 Arch 595 - GNOME is default
Sorry ... no soup for you.