Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 11:48 UTC, submitted by PLan
In the News In a move that would certainly shake up the computer industry quite a bit, IBM is reportedly in talks with Sun Microsystems about the possibility of IBM acquiring Sun. Sun is going through hard times at the moment, and has been actively looking for someone to be acquired by.
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RE[6]: Solaris is dead.
by Windows Sucks on Thu 19th Mar 2009 02:32 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Solaris is dead. "
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[q]Pardon? you obviously haven't seen the numerous deployments of Exchange, Sharepoint (as part of the Office System). I shudder when I see these things deployed but at the same time I realise that is what customers want.

Yes I work for the US government so I see MS used all the time everyday. But as I said mostly for Workgroup tasks like File and Print serving. Yes Sharepoint is doing well, but again for Workgroups, same with Exchange.

But when it comes to other tasks like web hosting, database hosting and edge serving like mail bridgeheads for Exchange, real DNS (Not that MS auto update crap) IDS's, Firewalls etc people use Linux or Unix for that.

[q]For example, there are replacements for the whole Microsoft stack already out there - why isn't there an organisation who can pull all these projects together, integrate them into an operating system, put a nice easy to use front end on it - and sell it.

Novell has that whole stack with their Open Workgroup Server. Which includes Edirectory, Mysql, Groupwise, File and Print Sharing etc. BUT Novell sucks at marketing and their channel can't come close to MS.

A big list of hardware doesn't mean that the hardware is fully supported or the quality of the support is up to standard, able to be supported on alternative architectures or just a matter of recompiling given that drivers have platform specific code.

True, but we already see the LARGE number of every day devices that Linux is used on and used well on, from Tivo to the Google G1. When people think of "Unix or Unix like" they think of Linux, not Solaris, AIX, BSD or SCO. Only Solaris lovers use Solaris at this point.

I mean a simple example of how flexible Linux is. We had 200 IDS devices that we got from Cisco to monitor our network. They cost an arm and a leg and they sucked. The guy who managed them decided one day they could do it better and cheaper with Snort. Now to do this do you think Solaris was thought of?? Nope. Not even on the table. The guy grabbed Debian Linux, found a place to get 200 small rack mount servers, built an in house Apt server and built his own custom IDS OS from Debian. Set it up so he could quick ghost 10 IDS's at a time and have them sent to the remote offices in the field. We replaced all 200 in like a month, all running Debian, saving tons of money and headache. Simple. Could you roll your own version of Solaris or Open Solaris real quick? Not.

That is where Linux shines.

People have been ducking it for a long time but Solaris is dead. It might linger like OS2 but that is about it.

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