Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 11:48 UTC, submitted by PLan
In the News In a move that would certainly shake up the computer industry quite a bit, IBM is reportedly in talks with Sun Microsystems about the possibility of IBM acquiring Sun. Sun is going through hard times at the moment, and has been actively looking for someone to be acquired by.
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RE[6]: Solaris is dead.
by Moulinneuf on Thu 19th Mar 2009 02:39 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Solaris is dead. "
Moulinneuf
Member since:
2005-07-06

No, it was first used commercially in the ISP arena


Wrong

The first viable commercial entity was selling GNU/Linux on diskette ... Internet was slow as hell in most places. ISP came in much later when the internet we know today started to take off around 1996-1998.

FreeBSD is 1993

"FreeBSD's development began in 1993 "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD

BSD is 1970's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution

FreeBSD was being tied up with legal wrangles


FreeBSD was not even part in the lawsuit ... it also happened in 1992.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL_v._BSDi

I am sure that FreeBSD would have pulled ahead.


Apple , Microsoft and SUN , etc , are the ones who made the billions ... not the BSD community.

It had nothing to do with opensource


Actually it had everything to do with **real** Open Source and not the marketing phrase Open SOurce.

- GNU/Linux put **everything** online and said come play with it and let's share idea and we can all work freely on it as nobody can close it.

- BSD is and was : we are the best , we need no one , we make the perfect system , your opinion and code is worthless until we say it's good.

UNIX was beaten by Microsoft and Apple who used BSD for it's based and part of it's core.

SUN as very direct relation with BSD's one of it's founder is : Bill Joy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Joy

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http://mariosundar.wordpress.com/2007/02/24/larry-ellison-on-apple-...

In 1997 In 1997, Apple was mired in questions surrounding it’s future, unsure of its footing within the computer industry and counting down its days of glory. In the words of Sir Wikipedia:

On July 9, 1997, Gil Amelio was ousted as CEO of Apple by the board of directors after overseeing a 12-year record-low stock price and crippling financial losses. Jobs stepped in as the interim CEO and began a critical restructuring of the company’s product line.

At the 1997 Macworld Expo, Steve Jobs announced that Apple would be entering into partnership with Microsoft.

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What's the point ? Apple get sued , they got to a point everyone had them on the out or dead ... Since then they even switched patform from PPC to Intel ... They also are a commercial entity , they sale and support their product and they invest billion in development.

Their is three mainstream OS :

#1 GNU/Linux
#2 Microsoft
#3 Apple

By usage.

BSD as been around since the 70's ... as never been mainstream and probably never will be Due to their own hubris.

Edited 2009-03-19 02:42 UTC

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RE[7]: Solaris is dead.
by kaiwai on Thu 19th Mar 2009 03:09 in reply to "RE[6]: Solaris is dead. "
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Wrong


You are wrong yet again for failing reading comprehension:

The first viable commercial entity was selling GNU/Linux on diskette ... Internet was slow as hell in most places. ISP came in much later when the internet we know today started to take off around 1996-1998.


Who said anything about selling linux - I am talking about Linux use in the commercial space. I raised the point that one of the first uses in the commercial space was in ISP's who wanted a good enough UNIX like operating system that ran on cheap PC hardware that was available at the time. They were some of the first Linux customers.

As for the rest of the post; its worthless waffle that has nothing to do with the kernel of the post; the point I was making was that Linux got a foot hold into the commercial world through its use in ISP's then it expanded out beyond that. With the dot-com boom Linux use expanded out beyond the ISP's, and into the other commercial entities who wanted to have an online presence, then it moved into the back ends of organisations. Again, these customers saw Linux as good enough technology (GET) to do the job.

Again, why you have even raised the issue of selling Linux - it is completely irrelevant to the discourse taking place - its the equivalent of jumping up and randomly screaming out, "I love pink fluffy bunny slippers".

Edited 2009-03-19 03:13 UTC

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RE[8]: Solaris is dead.
by Moulinneuf on Thu 19th Mar 2009 05:31 in reply to "RE[7]: Solaris is dead. "
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

Who said anything about selling linux


That would be me ...

I am talking about Linux use in the commercial space.


No , I also replied to one quoted point I disagreed with see here :

http://www.osnews.com/thread?353752

Then you went on a diatribe about how you think it got started , to witch I rightfully replied it was wrong and offered correction :

http://www.osnews.com/thread?353791

To point out the obvious :

1991 when it started.
1996 when the ISP became customer.

1992
1993
1994
1995

are missing from your reality and apparently don't mater. ( hello !! that's when the major distribution got started )

http://www.linux.org/info/linux_timeline.html

http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt93.png

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/linuxkerneldevelopment....

No ISP as big contributor ...

It's time to face reality , GNU/Linux did the work other refused to do or where unable to do , there is no luck or special parnership involved as most BSD have 1 or 2 ISP as there contributer/funder. Yahoo also existed before Google ...

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