Miller on Mac OS X, Chrome, Firefox, Economics
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Mar 2009 13:51 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Privacy, Security, Encryption Fresh from winning the PWN2OWN contest yesterday, Charlie Miller has been interviewed by ZDNet. He talks about how Mac OS X is a very simple operating system to exploit due to the lack of any form of anti-exploit features. He also explains that the underlying operating system is much more important in creating a successful exploit than the bowser, why Chrome is so hard to hack, and many other things.
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RE[2]: Comment by sadyc
by WorknMan on Fri 20th Mar 2009 17:17 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by sadyc"
WorknMan
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2005-11-13

Basically, however, what he's saying is he'd rather make money than prevent others from getting royally screwed, a prime example of the selfish greed-motivated mentality that seems to be so prevalent today, and one that will ultimately screw us all for good. When you come right down to it, that's pathetic.


Yeah, God forbid anybody should ever be paid for what they're doing. Perhaps you would like to feed his family while he works for the good of humanity; we'll just set up a Paypal account in your name.

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RE[3]: Comment by sadyc
by darknexus on Fri 20th Mar 2009 17:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by sadyc"
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2008-07-15

Amazing how out of context you can take things when you want to. If you're going to quote me, at least have the decency to quote all relevant parts of my comment. Otherwise, you are doing nothing but twisting my words. You aren't a politician by chance are you?
I said above the place you quoted, he certainly deserves to be paid for what he does. Or did you not bother to read that part? I'm saying that what he is doing with these exploits right now is pretty low, holding on to them so he can sell them for his own price or use them to show off. He deserves to be paid, but not to be allowed to extort. Get it?

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RE[4]: Comment by sadyc
by WorknMan on Fri 20th Mar 2009 19:18 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by sadyc"
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2005-11-13

Assuming he does this for a living, unless he's hired by Apple (or somebody else), how else is he supposed to get paid? Even if he were willing to do it for free instead of extorting, it's doubtful that he'd be able to put the kind of time into it that he currently does, and thus the chances aren't as likely that he'd be able to find the exploits in the first place.

The part of your post I took issue with is when you labeled him greedy and selfish. I just think that's a little narrow-minded especially since he could easily go to work for the opposing team and probably make more money selling these exploits to criminals, assuming he was greedy enough to do so.

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