Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Mar 2009 13:51 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Privacy, Security, Encryption Fresh from winning the PWN2OWN contest yesterday, Charlie Miller has been interviewed by ZDNet. He talks about how Mac OS X is a very simple operating system to exploit due to the lack of any form of anti-exploit features. He also explains that the underlying operating system is much more important in creating a successful exploit than the bowser, why Chrome is so hard to hack, and many other things.
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RE[4]: Operating System Security
by MobyTurbo on Sun 22nd Mar 2009 00:20 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Operating System Security"
MobyTurbo
Member since:
2005-07-08

IE was never in the kernel. I don't know where people get this kind of stuff from.
It was never in the NT kernel, i.e. not in any recent version of Windows. It was in Windows 98. Sorry.

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siride Member since:
2006-01-02

Yeah, where exactly? KERNEL.EXE? No. vmm386.exe? Very unlikely. Yep, still a DLL somewhere. I guess since the concept of kernel was a little bit more nebulous in Win9x, you could stretch really far and say that IE was "in the kernel", but that's not saying much.

I found only one reference while googling that said IE was in the kernel and it was some rant page that gave no proof that IE was ever in the kernel. No Wikipedia pages gave any indication that IE was ever in the kernel (they did mention, as do any other pages on the subject, that IE was tied in with the OS, but the OS is broader than the kernel). If you can find me a legitimate link that shows IE was in the kernel in Win9x, I would greatly appreciate it.

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MobyTurbo Member since:
2005-07-08

Yeah, where exactly? KERNEL.EXE? No. vmm386.exe? Very unlikely. Yep, still a DLL somewhere. I guess since the concept of kernel was a little bit more nebulous in Win9x, you could stretch really far and say that IE was "in the kernel", but that's not saying much.

I found only one reference while googling that said IE was in the kernel and it was some rant page that gave no proof that IE was ever in the kernel. No Wikipedia pages gave any indication that IE was ever in the kernel (they did mention, as do any other pages on the subject, that IE was tied in with the OS, but the OS is broader than the kernel). If you can find me a legitimate link that shows IE was in the kernel in Win9x, I would greatly appreciate it.
I can't seem to find any references that say that either. I'll apologize therefore, and say that Windows 98 had IE too tied with the operating system instead; which is correct, and that many programs and the OS use components of IE all over the place, making a bug in IE often a bug in the OS, also correct.

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