Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Mar 2009 22:34 UTC
Gnome The GNOME team has released GNOME 2.26, the latest release in the 2.x release branch. As everyone knows, GNOME is a multi-platform open source desktop environment. The 2.26 release continues GNOME's policy of incremental updates to a stable base, and as such, it comes packed with a boatload of new features.
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RE[4]: Great Release!
by darknexus on Sun 22nd Mar 2009 22:22 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Great Release!"
darknexus
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2008-07-15

And the same is being said, by those same Windows and OS X users, about KDE. In fact, it's usually generalized to "Linux." I know you have an axe to grind with GNOME for some odd reason (or is it anything that isn't KDE?), but really, try to keep some perspective. Most Windows and OS X users view open source desktops as hobbiest. I won't say whether that is the correct perception or not, but it is there regardless. Most of them have heard of "that Linux thingy" but wouldn't know the terms GNOME and KDE if they came up and bit them. Hell, most of them don't even know OS X's user interface is called Aqua, and they don't care. They just want to point and click, and do what they have to do. Oh, and by the way, rotating cubes and spinning plasmoids are usually secondary in their minds to getting their work done. Perhaps if both major open source desktops didn't concentrate so much on that and shored up some gaps in actual functionality...

Edited 2009-03-22 22:23 UTC

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RE[5]: Great Release!
by segedunum on Sun 22nd Mar 2009 23:13 in reply to "RE[4]: Great Release!"
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2005-07-06

And the same is being said, by those same Windows and OS X users, about KDE. In fact, it's usually generalized to "Linux."

Yep it is, but, KDE has the features that Windows and OS X users will be familiar with and the programming platform to be a fair bit more compelling to developers who will create the functionality that will make users use a Linux desktop.

I know you have an axe to grind with GNOME for some odd reason....

Because it's just plain inferior, that's why. No more, no less. If it wasn't we wouldn't keep getting this.

I'm not the one trying to give the strange impression that we're stuck with Gnome in the open source desktop world because of the number of distros it is the 'default' desktop on because I know I can't talk about features, developer tools, functionality or applications or anything that actually matters to people ;-).

Oh, and by the way, rotating cubes and spinning plasmoids are usually secondary in their minds to getting their work done.

It's an untrue myth I'm afraid. That's what CDE thought when Windows 95 and Mac OS moved on in the visual department, and look where that got it. Graphical and visual improvements also have spin-off benefits such as resolution independence.

When users or a group of decision makers see Windows Vista or 7 and OS X when compared with a distro running Gnome as the default alongside it they're just going to laugh - and that's just a visual inspection.

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RE[6]: Great Release!
by darknexus on Sun 22nd Mar 2009 23:25 in reply to "RE[5]: Great Release!"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

"Inferior," is very subjective. Honestly, you complain about GNOME fanboys, but it takes a fanboy to know one I suppose. Look at the crap you're spouting out and realize you're simply the same as they are, you're just on the other side of the fence.
What is inferior to you may not be inferior to me. For my purposes, for example, KDE is very clearly inferior to GNOME. Stop trying to force your view on others. It won't work, you'll inevitably piss people off, and then you'll be pissed off and repeat the cycle. KDE, GNOME, whatever. Let's just have all of them continue to thrive, competition is nothing but good, and agreement will never be reached on a topic as subjective as this.
I did not say visual improvements were not important. But there's a point when it goes beyond improvement and simply becomes a toy, of no real practical purpose. What, exactly, does a spinning cube bring to the desktop experience, other than the five seconds it takes to go wow, ok that was cool now what? Maybe I'm just jaded and sick of every Linux fanboy zealot pointing out the spinning cubes as a productive feature. Some of the visuals are features, others very clearly are just eye candy. Further, I wouldn't say CDE died because of lack of visual effects, it died because at the time it wasn't usually practical for the average home user to run UNIX, if they even knew what UNIX was or cared. CDE fell off, in short, when better desktops like GNOME and KDE came on the scene and replaced it, they were more open and had new ideas, thus attracting a wider community around them.

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