Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Mar 2009 10:45 UTC
Legal We always try to avoid politics like the plague here on OSNews, but sometimes, it's hard to avoid it. Take the case of Joel Tenenbaum, who could be liable for over 1 million USD if the Recording Industry Association of America gets its way. While many hoped for a change of pace when it comes to these matters, Barack Obama's Department of Justice has squarely sided with the RIAA.
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red_devel
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2006-03-30

Those of you saying that this proves that Obama is just another Bush are displaying your ignorance. There are issues on which the Obama DOJ has changed policy from that of Bush. For example, the Obama DOJ has ceased enforcing federal anti-marajuana laws against patients that use marajuana for medical purposes in states that allow for that. This is a change from Bush. But see, patients that use medical marajuana have a valid and moral need to do so. Pirates have no need to pirate, so why should the DOJ interfere with the law as its written (especially when the defendent passed up the chance at settlement)?


Oh Puh-lease! You must be kidding. This is why I find myself so disillusioned by politics. People just want to support whatever "side" they are on and they'll argue the most ridiculous things EVER to justify who they voted for.

Are you really going to tell me that someone who downloaded 7 songs should have to pay THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS? Do you have any idea how much money that is to most people in the world? This whole attitude of "he should have just paid it and saved the trouble" is the ENTIRE point that the law students representing him are trying to make. The RIAA is being granted the right to levy these ridiculous fines against people who are then forced to pay them because defending themselves against the RIAA's army of lawyers and lobbyists is an impossibility. They are essentially acting outside the system of justice and being granted ridiculous amounts of power and like Thom said, thats a scary freakin' prospect.

Now, as for this whole Marijuana kick you decided to bring in out of nowhere, it just makes me laugh even more. Medical marijuana is a joke and if you've been to LA you know you can get all the 'legal' weed you want by saying you have insomnia or arthritis or back pain or any freakin' load of bull you want. There are in my opinion NO valid moral reasons to use Marijuana, but certainly if there are any, there are not even a tenth as many people who need it in the whole country as there are currently getting prescriptions to buy it in California. Any action to move away from enforcing the laws on these jokes of 'medical' marijuana clinics who are nothing more than smart drug dealers is a move to legalize weed altogether, and it should be interpreted and judged as nothing less.

So listen buddy, go smoke your ganja and pop in your favorite Bob Marley CD you paid twenty bucks for, and keep telling yourself that Obama, or any politician, is the answer to your problems.

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RshPL Member since:
2009-03-13

So listen buddy, go smoke your ganja and pop in your favorite Bob Marley CD you paid twenty bucks for, and keep telling yourself that Obama, or any politician, is the answer to your problems.

Obama or not Obama, if I say that people should be allowed to smoke whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't affect other people, would you advice me to go smoke my ganja as well? That is the sort of ad persona arguments I hate the most.

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red_devel Member since:
2006-03-30

Obama or not Obama, if I say that people should be allowed to smoke whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't affect other people, would you advice me to go smoke my ganja as well?


No, I would tell you that you have a very naive, limited, and western point of view of the world. When you buy and consume Marijuana you are supporting an industry of organized crime and death. You think you are affecting no one, but in countries like Jamaica, where I just returned from, people die and suffer so Westerners with too much money and time on their hands can get high, eat cheetos and watch Super Troopers.

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MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

the Obama DOJ has changed from the Bush DOJ, and the reasons for that, in contrast with the reasons they would not choose to interfere in a copyright case. (medical marijuana patients are more sympathetic figures than pirates, particularly pirates that pass up on a settlment then complain at the prospect of getting hit with huge penalty). Whether you agree with the change in the enforcement of federal marijuana laws against medical marijuana patients in medical marijuana states is not relevant; my point was that there has been change from Bush, even if softening the government's stance against piracy is not one of them.

And no, I don't smoke it myself, though I see nothing wrong with others doing it as long as they don't affect others; for example, they shouldn't drive while under the influence of pot, just like with alcohol.

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corberlaw Member since:
2009-03-25

The RIAA wants to destroy american jurisprudence. How? They want it so that merely filing a lawsuit entitled them to a judgment. No proof necessary. If they had their ay, leasving a CD on th doorstep weould constitue "making available." Most of the music being donloaded is worthless crap. Should the might of the whole US government be protecting us from kids who want to hear worthless crap? Or from those who would fly jets into skyscrapers? Where is there more danger? We don't have unlimited resources. Stop squandering them.

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Medical marijuana is a joke and if you've been to LA you know you can get all the 'legal' weed you want by saying you have insomnia or arthritis or back pain or any freakin' load of bull you want.


"Why... it's nothing but a tin of red herrings in heavy oil!"

That argument boils down to "because there are people who use it for frivolous reasons, there must be no medicinal value." When I was in high school, one of my classmates was actually stupid enough to overdose on Gravol - does your reasoning apply there as well?

So listen buddy, go smoke your ganja and pop in your favorite Bob Marley CD you paid twenty bucks for


Personally, I've never smoked in my life - but now I'm strongly tempted to. If just to dissociate myself from the sort of idiocy displayed in the above quote.

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