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RE[6]: US two-party "democracy"
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 24th Mar 2009 19:06
in reply to "RE[5]: US two-party "democracy""
Would you elaborate on your view of the differences? At the moment I see it as the two having essentially the same end-game goals but different opinions of how to achieve them--essentially, a disagreement on whether society should be forcibly reinvented, or changed incrementally through the existing legal system.
Socialism strives to create a certain amount of equality, social justice, and solidarity. It has little to nothing to do with the key point of communism, which is the common ownership of the means of production and property in general. Socialism means nothing of the sort.
Perhaps that there is something in human nature which makes it impossible, in the same way that perfect peace is impossible?
Obviously. Communism is not in our nature.
RE[7]: US two-party "democracy"
by jwwf on Tue 24th Mar 2009 19:36
in reply to "RE[6]: US two-party "democracy""
"Would you elaborate on your view of the differences? At the moment I see it as the two having essentially the same end-game goals but different opinions of how to achieve them--essentially, a disagreement on whether society should be forcibly reinvented, or changed incrementally through the existing legal system.
Socialism strives to create a certain amount of equality, social justice, and solidarity. It has little to nothing to do with the key point of communism, which is the common ownership of the means of production and property in general. Socialism means nothing of the sort. "
Fair enough. I wonder though how we should think of those who "split the difference" between these two criteria? Some American socialists have a strong collectivist bent which others (me included) find alarming.






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Would you elaborate on your view of the differences? At the moment I see it as the two having essentially the same end-game goals but different opinions of how to achieve them--essentially, a disagreement on whether society should be forcibly reinvented, or changed incrementally through the existing legal system. At any rate I am surprised that you think there is no common ground.
Perhaps that there is something in human nature which makes it impossible, in the same way that perfect peace is impossible?