Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Mar 2009 18:02 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
GNU, GPL, Open Source Eric S. Raymond is one of the three big figures in open source, together with Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman. During a talk for the Long Island Linux User Group, he made some interesting statements about the GPL, namely that the GPL is no longer needed due to the way the open source movement works.
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RE: Sometimes GPL isn't enough
by StaubSaugerNZ on Wed 25th Mar 2009 05:59 UTC in reply to "Sometimes GPL isn't enough"
StaubSaugerNZ
Member since:
2007-07-13

As someone who does embedded programmig in closed hardware platforms which don't have any hope of ever being replaced by open ones (game consoles) GPL sucks.
Examples of this is trying to use Java/Javascript/Mono/etc on them. Sure, Java may be GPL, but if i want to do a closed implementation i still have to talk to Sun/Novell/Etc.. why is this necesary? It's not like i'm taking java and making it close..


You don't have to talk to anyone to use (GPL) Java on a platform. Oh, unless you want to take all that work for free and use it and close it up again. Is that what you want?

Don't you get the problem here is you want to get something for nothing and then close it up again. The problem is not with GPL Java but with your company's selfishness. If it doesn't want to use GPL Java then you company should implement a version itself, or quit whinging about it. In fact, the GNU team are generous enough to give a Java implementation with "Classpath exception" so you can use it with your own stuff and leave your own code closed. Ain't that real nice of them, so no need to kvetch about it, k?

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hamster Member since:
2006-10-06


Don't you get the problem here is you want to get something for nothing and then close it up again. The problem is not with GPL Java but with your company's selfishness. If it doesn't want to use GPL Java then you company should implement a version itself, or quit whinging about it. In fact, the GNU team are generous enough to give a Java implementation with "Classpath exception" so you can use it with your own stuff and leave your own code closed. Ain't that real nice of them, so no need to kvetch about it, k?


What is it this gnu team what ever that is have done? It's Sun that has opened java under the gpl.

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