Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Mar 2009 18:57 UTC, submitted by Michael
KDE On Friday, KDE officially launched its version of Dell's IdeaStorm - KDE Brainstorm. In less than 24 hours, over 100 new ideas were proposed. "Getting the non-developer and developer communities really communicating is often a challenge, and KDE's approach is a great start. Developers now have an opportunity to hear what end-users want."
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RE: How about making it work?
by massysett on Wed 25th Mar 2009 21:22 UTC in reply to "How about making it work?"
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(I had been a happy KDE 3.5 user.)

So why didn't you keep using KDE 3.5? You could have kept using your KDE 3.5 distribution. Or if you wanted a newer distribution, Debian, Slackware, and OpenSUSE continue to offer KDE 3.5. I understand switching distributions is a pain, but no more painful than switching back to a different platform entirely.

It's not as though the KDE 3.5 code is taken away from you. You can still use it. (Contrast this with the vendors of other, proprietary operating systems, who deem the old versions obsolete and refuse to keep selling them.)

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bjorn nitmo Member since:

How many years do you think people will keep KDE 3.x around? 6 or 7? QT 3.x was end of lifed two years ago.

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glarepate Member since:

How many years do you think people will keep KDE 3.x around? 6 or 7? QT 3.x was end of lifed two years ago.

That said, does 3.5 no longer work?

Will 3.5 stop working before 4.x meets your requirements?

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RE[2]: How about making it work?
by OSGuy on Sat 28th Mar 2009 06:04 in reply to "RE: How about making it work?"
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Let's see how fast my post will go down...

Isn't that obvious? Let me express my input. "Because KDE 3.5 isn't perfect" and no one wants to live in the past. KDE 3.5 isn't perfect and is not being developed any more. I used to use 3.5 too but when 4.x came out I switched to GNOME and a month later I switched to Windows and it has nothing to do with installing programs or hardware detection. It has to do with the way the whole desktop behaves and the way the GUI looks.

1. Click on an icon and then click on the label, a rename operation does *not* get started. You have to right click and select Properties in order to rename a file

2. No Drag/Drop within the menus. With Windows you can drag/drop menu entries within the Programs menu to re-arrange them with right click support etc.

3. With GNOME, right clicking + properties to rename a file, hitting "Enter" after you've edited the text does *not* close the dialog. WTF?

4. With GNOME, clicking "Create New Folder" within the Open/Save dialog, a new folder gets created with the label "Type New Name for your folder" or something like that....rather then "New Folder"

5. The panel icons in GNOME are ridiculous. The icon size aren't even, the spacing doesn't look all the same and when you re-arrange icons you have to create the space for the new icon yourself.

6. Toolbars aren't neat, they are too tall, just looks plain ugly. Compare AbiWord 2009 and MS Word 97 for example. MS Word 97 still looks superior and professional to gNumeric and AbiWord.

7. Dialog boxes are just huge even with a few controls (widgets) in them.

I don't know what's wrong with OSS developers really It seems like they either don't have the grasp of how things are supposed to be and what 80% of the users are used to or they are simply lazy and can't be bothered making thigs better because it works "well enough" to perform the desired operation.

I have used, tried so many Linux distributions in the past since KDE 1.x days and GNOME 1.x with GTK 1.x. Not even once I have been happy with what they have presented us so far. They all suck hence I keep going back to Windows because it just works the way you'd expect it! You can right click, drag, move things in so many ways. The whole desktop experience just works coherently and consistently.

I don't care if it's MS or not, I don't care what people say, I just want something that's flexible and won't have to use a separate application to perform simple operations such as creating and re-arranging menu entries....

Feel free to disagree with me. It's your right and it is my right to express my frustration in relation to the current stage of "desktop Linux"....oh wait it is not "Linux" it's called "linux"

Edited 2009-03-28 06:15 UTC

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