Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Mar 2009 18:57 UTC, submitted by Michael
KDE On Friday, KDE officially launched its version of Dell's IdeaStorm - KDE Brainstorm. In less than 24 hours, over 100 new ideas were proposed. "Getting the non-developer and developer communities really communicating is often a challenge, and KDE's approach is a great start. Developers now have an opportunity to hear what end-users want."
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RE[2]: KDE brainstorm
by lemur2 on Thu 26th Mar 2009 02:37 UTC in reply to "RE: KDE brainstorm"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

This is getting like the MS bashing, they do it because everyone is doing it.


I think there is more of an agenda here than meets they eye.

It possibly has something to do with the fact that KDE 4.2.1 (and presumably later) is faster than GNOME, at least as functional as GNOME, the underlying library (Qt 4.5) is licensed under LGPL, it doesn't include Mono at all, and it is way sexier and more innovative than than GNOME.

I can see where certain parties (perhaps who have made deals with other desktop vendors) possibly wouldn't like that at all. Who knows? There may even be a desire in some circles to unfairly smear the reputation of a new and innovative competing desktop software.

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RE[3]: KDE brainstorm
by steampoweredlawn on Thu 26th Mar 2009 04:46 in reply to "RE[2]: KDE brainstorm"
steampoweredlawn Member since:
2006-09-27

There may even be a desire in some circles to unfairly smear the reputation of a new and innovative competing desktop software.


I guess anything is possible, but it's pretty childish, and doesn't seem to be coming from the Gnome guys themselves.

http://jasondclinton.livejournal.com/71412.html

Jason D. Clinton, devloper of the Gnome games modules, says
I just wanted to continue to praise what the KDE people are doing since I poorly reviewed 4.0. I just installed KDE 4.2 (what is tagged in SVN) and played with it for a few hours. In short: it is amazing!
It is so, so impressive. You guys deserve tons of kudos for what you have achieved.


Based on my own personal experiences, I'm guessing that these pundits played with KDE 4.0.x or 4.1.x, and the system didn't like their machine very much (it was pretty finicky about hardware), and therefore decided that it was garbage.

I have KDE 4 installed on four computers, three of which work flawlessly. One of them has a crummy SiS card and presumably because of its drivers, Plasma has a severe memory leak where after 24 hours its using 512 megs of RAM. A friend of mine asked me to put KDE 4 on his machine, replacing Gnome, but after countless glitches and random lockups, he decided that while KDE 4 is brimming with promise, it just isn't there yet, for him. He grudgingly asked me to put Gnome back after the 4.2 upgrade didn't solve any of his problems.

It's entirely possible that for these people, KDE 4 simply doesn't work right, and they haven't had the pleasure of seeing it when it's working the way it's supposed to.

The thing everyone needs to remember is this isn't an Us vs Them battle, it's different strokes for different folks, and we're all one big community looking for software that works the way we do.

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RE[4]: KDE brainstorm
by lemur2 on Thu 26th Mar 2009 05:56 in reply to "RE[3]: KDE brainstorm"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

A friend of mine asked me to put KDE 4 on his machine, replacing Gnome, but after countless glitches and random lockups, he decided that while KDE 4 is brimming with promise, it just isn't there yet, for him. He grudgingly asked me to put Gnome back after the 4.2 upgrade didn't solve any of his problems.


If this machine has a nvidia card, check the version of the driver. If the driver is the nvidia proprietary driver version 17x.xx or earlier, then update to the latest driver. Nvidia have been furiously releasing new versions of their Linux driver of late (sometimes as frequently as four days interval).

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE2OA

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE1NQ

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE0NA

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzEyNg

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzA5MQ

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzA1Nw

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzAyMg

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_18025&num...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Njk3OA

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RE[4]: KDE brainstorm
by superstoned on Thu 26th Mar 2009 07:01 in reply to "RE[3]: KDE brainstorm"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

I can imagine the issues of your friend, there are a huge amount of corner-issues left, only affecting some ppl and not others. We have had KDE 4.x out for a little over a year now, so it's most likely gonna take at least another year before most of those are fixed. I've experienced the very same - on my desktop, KDE 4.3SVN easily uses 1.5 gig of ram (!) while on my laptop (same distro and svn version!) 512 is more than enough for running KDE. Finding the culprit is very hard - I'm afraid we just have to wait until more of those bugs are squashed. And the KDE community needs input from users to be able to find them, obviously. That's a big part of the reason for the 4.0 release - much DID work for the devs and they needed input to fix the weird issues they themselves did not experience.

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