Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Mar 2009 18:57 UTC, submitted by Michael
KDE On Friday, KDE officially launched its version of Dell's IdeaStorm - KDE Brainstorm. In less than 24 hours, over 100 new ideas were proposed. "Getting the non-developer and developer communities really communicating is often a challenge, and KDE's approach is a great start. Developers now have an opportunity to hear what end-users want."
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RE[3]: How about making it work?
by tonym on Thu 26th Mar 2009 03:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: How about making it work?"
tonym
Member since:
2005-07-06

Is it acceptable behavior to blame KDE for the bad packaging that some Distros have done?

I think not. The main problem with the KDE 4.x series was it getting pushed too fast, with too little testing to users.

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B12 Simon Member since:
2006-11-08

Heh. True. If it fails on Slackware it's KDE's fault, most other distros it's the distros' fault ;)

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bjorn nitmo Member since:
2009-03-25

In this case, yes. It was advertised as 4.0. Not 4.0 alpha, beta, release candidate or anything like that. If 4.0 wasn't ready for prime time, they shouldn't have given it a real release number. Isn't that the usual criticism of commercial software?

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Is it acceptable behavior to blame KDE for the bad packaging that some Distros have done

Oh, the ubiquitous "It's just bad packaging of KDE4 by the distros!" meme. Why does this plague of packaging incompetence not affect the other DEs? Why doesn't it affect KDE 3.x? I rarely hear this claim outside of KDE4 discussions. Especially since the reason given by maintainers of low-manpower distros like Patrick Volkerding of Slackware, is that KDE is easier to package.

However, if the KDE project honestly feels that this is an issue, I suggest that they stop saying "It's not our job" and start making some packages. After all, we've seen several posts right here under this story claiming that end users should be happy to alpha and beta test KDE's supposedly gold releases, even though it's pretty clear those things are hardly in their job description.

Edited 2009-03-26 22:32 UTC

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Morty Member since:
2005-07-06

Why does this plague of packaging incompetence not affect the other DEs? Why doesn't it affect KDE 3.x? I rarely hear this claim outside of KDE4 discussions.


That is a totally dishonest statement from you, and a deliberate twisting of truth to aid your poor anti KDE4 trolling. You have been around for a long time, and even commented on articles where discussions also have covered things like distributions with sub-par KDE3(and perhaps even KDE2) packaging.

As you are fully aware of Kubuntu usually fared rather badly, and was never praised for it's KDE3 packaging. Another source of less than stellar packages are Red Hat/Fedora, a well known 3rd party project have existed for years working on delivering a decent KDE desktop.

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