Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Mar 2009 23:34 UTC
Amiga & AROS Despite the recent emergence of several new ways to actually run AmigaOS 4.0, the supply of machines is still extremely small, and not very future proof. As such, one of the most recurring questions within the Amiga community is why don't they port the darn thing to x86?
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Amiga OS is dead...
by StychoKiller on Fri 27th Mar 2009 05:15 UTC
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2005-09-20

the body just hasn't stopped twitching yet. Having said that, I owned an Amiga in one form or another from 1986 till 2004. Without hardware, and more importantly, spare parts, no OS can survive. I really miss the Amiga OS, because every other major OS has too much "complexity by design" for my taste. Anyone with a year's worth of applied study could understand the entire Amiga OS, which is why there were so many games written for it. Currently, I'm using gentoo Linux in a custom PC table of my own design (http://www.frontiernet.net/~jimbot/allsparkproject.htm).
It's been a severe uphill struggle to figure out how to use wxWidgets or GTK+ in my own programs. Most of the struggle could be avoided if libraries such as these would simplify their design philsosophy -- why does every Linux program/library have to be able to network, for example? If AROS would just bite the bullet and COMPLETE their first goal of making a port of Amiga OS3.1 for the x86, more people would use it. "Swiss Cheese" OS'es are of no benefit to anyone.
Right now, I could use a utility that would read my saved Amiga-formatted hard disks so I could get all of the data off of them and into my Linux PC.

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RE: Amiga OS is dead...
by Pro-Competition on Fri 27th Mar 2009 18:00 in reply to "Amiga OS is dead..."
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2007-08-20

Right now, I could use a utility that would read my saved Amiga-formatted hard disks so I could get all of the data off of them and into my Linux PC.

This is pretty simple. I did it in Linux, because it was handy. It was about 10 years ago, so I don't remember the exactly command I used, but you can simply copy the data from the raw disk device to a file.

IIRC, this disk image file worked fine for me in UAE without modification.

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RE[2]: Amiga OS is dead...
by StychoKiller on Fri 27th Mar 2009 21:38 in reply to "RE: Amiga OS is dead..."
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2005-09-20

Linux only supports DOS1 format, NOT DOS7, so the ability to read Amiga Hard Disks is limited at a very low-level.

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RE: Amiga OS is dead...
by bdalzell on Sun 29th Mar 2009 05:13 in reply to "Amiga OS is dead..."
bdalzell Member since:
2009-03-29

"Right now, I could use a utility that would read my saved Amiga-formatted hard disks so I could get all of the data off of them and into my Linux PC."

The affs switch in the linux mount command will allow you to mount full Amiga formatted hard drives under Linux. If they are SCSI you need a scsi pci card.

here is the format for the command that I use to mount a a partition from an Amiga drive under Ubuntu linux on my Desktop in a folder :

sudo mount -t affs -o setuid=1000,setgid=1000 /dev/sdb1 /home/me/Desktop/AmigaWD/amigaWD-00

sudo is because root has to mount

mount -t affs gives the switches to mount

-o setiod=1000, setgid=1000 sets the owner and user

/dev/sdb is the location of the drive - it is the second drive in my system. sdb1 means it is the first partition on that drive

/home/me/Desktop/AmigaWD/amigaWD-00 is the path to the folder on my desktop where i will access the partition.

i have been running Amiga OS 3.9 using Amithlon for 5 years now on a 1.3 GHz Athlon intel architecture machien as a dual boot with Ubuntu Linux. I use the linux ability to read the Amiga drive to allow me to share files. Mostly I still use the Amiga for graphics as I really like ImageFx. However the lack of memory protection means I crash fairly frequently when I do too intensive a graphics manipulation. On the athlon according to sysinfo the Amiga OS is running at least 1000 times faster than it did on a standard Amiga. Graphic manipulations that used to take hours take seconds.

The success of Amithlon in running the OS sitting ontop of a linux kernel shows that Amiga OS can operate on intell hardware. Amithlon is much faster on my machine than is E-UAE and I can make full use of a wide screen lcd monitor.

When I initially had Amithlon running I was using the specially formatted "amithlon hardfile" but since then I have discovered I can put the Amithlon kernel and boot files in my linux boot partition and boot Amithlon from the multiboot linux booter GRUB. Once Amithlon boots it finds my native Amiga harddrive and uses the OS from there - no more hardfile and full access to all my amiga files from either OS. The only problem I am currently having is that I seem to have lost my ability to use USB from amiga. Of course I cannot read an Amiga floppy/

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