Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Mar 2009 18:53 UTC, submitted by snydeq
Linux Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst questioned the relevance of Linux on the desktop, citing several financial and interoperability hurdles to business adoption at a panel on end-users and Linux last night at the OSBC.
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RE: Desktop Linux
by deb2006 on Fri 27th Mar 2009 20:45 UTC in reply to "Desktop Linux"
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2006-06-26

Linux needs some standards in order to be a mainstream desktop system. Having a minor percent of advanced users using it doesnt count. Standard package distributions , file locations and configurations etc.
Right now these are not there and new users have a big learning curve when trying to use the system.


It's there: Linux Standard Base (LSB). Not yet perfect, but almost ;)

Not to mention mp3's and other cool toys are disabled in most distros by default due to rights limitations, which doesnt help either.


A commercial Linux distribution such as SUSE has mp3 etc. support out of the box. Free distributions such as Debian cannot ship support for mp3 because of legal limitations. NB: Why should I use inferior mp3 to superior ogg? Not clear to me ...


Its a good OS but is not average user friendly.


I think Ubuntu is very much. Many Windows users are trying it. That's a very hopeful sign, I believe.



Companies are not going to target their software to it without standards, it just is not worth the cost. And every advanced developer who comes along can't start there own distribution, that just hurts the cause


Again, there ARE enough standards. What standard are you referring to? The Windows standard? Linux is not Windows, and that is a good thing. Despite this you can use Ubuntu without even touching the console once.

I love different distributions. What's wrong with that? It's choice, remember? Something a Windows user is not used to anymore. Oh, I have choice. Oh, that's frightening ...

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RE[2]: Desktop Linux
by ralphcarlsonjr on Sat 28th Mar 2009 03:16 in reply to "RE: Desktop Linux"
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2007-12-29

It's there: Linux Standard Base (LSB). Not yet perfect, but almost
- debian using .deb, rpms, compiling packages not avaliable in rpm's (yah like my relatives are going to ./configure; make; make install; make clean; (like never)

A commercial Linux distribution such as SUSE has mp3 etc. support out of the box. Free distributions such as Debian cannot ship support for mp3 because of legal limitations. NB: Why should I use inferior mp3 to superior ogg? Not clear to me ...

- most pay sites, majority of players use mp3, ogg is not out there as much yet and targeted by companies (music players - portable)


I think Ubuntu is very much. Many Windows users are trying it. That's a very hopeful sign, I believe.
- ask one of your non-computer expert relatives to try it, I do and they get easily frustrated, unable to determine where there files are located, apps are located, not easily to change the menus in some gui's,

Again, there ARE enough standards. What standard are you referring to? The Windows standard? Linux is not Windows, and that is a good thing. Despite this you can use Ubuntu without even touching the console once.
- ya and they are browser standards also, only problem is every browser ignores then and has its own quirks, so my web site code is filled with if (ie5) bla bla, if (firefox) bla bla, same thing with linux, I have books on each distro that I use, I dont have any books on windows (except coding), no need it is easy and every application created installs and acts in almost the same way. Everyone loves to hate windows , not the U.S. export business or companies like photoshop that target windows users. I would personally love to drop windows and use only linux, problem is 90% of the software I need to work and play use windows and are not portable to linux/wine.


I love different distributions. What's wrong with that? It's choice, remember? Something a Windows user is not used to anymore. Oh, I have choice. Oh, that's frightening ...
- have you ever had your family, wife , parents, etc.. pick out a tv, car, furniture, sometimes simple things like place to eat ;) lets try that with linux distros they will be using everyday and see how easy it goes.

*NOTE* I am talking about windows xp, windows vista is junk, my hp laptop came with vista and I went through hell getting vista off and xp on but am glad I did, vista is a bug not an operating system ;)

Edited 2009-03-28 03:21 UTC

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