Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Mar 2009 21:23 UTC
Mac OS X The omnipresent "people familiar with the matter" have told AppleInsider that Apple's upcoming Snow Leopard operating system will have more to show for itself than "just" under-the-hood changes and improvements. Apparently, Apple is preparing an updated theme for Snow Leopard, to replace the Aqua one.
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RE[2]: The emperor has no clothes.
by tupp on Sun 29th Mar 2009 18:02 UTC in reply to "RE: The emperor has no clothes."
tupp
Member since:
2006-11-12

Some people want choice, others want quality.

Not sure what this statement implies, but it sounds like RDF logic. Are quality and theme choice mutually exclusive?

Please explain how the lack of theme color choices equates to better quality.


... I use the defaults and I'm pretty happy with them.

Mac users had better be happy with the Mac defaults -- they have no choice.


Contrast that with my 15 years of using Windows and 10 years of Linux, where no matter how much I changed themes, I was never happy with them for more than a week.

The problem might not lie with the OS/GUI.


I'm not saying that the MacOS theme is perfect, but seems to be good enough.

No single theme is perfect for most people nor for most situations (e.g. dark edit bays, sunny bedrooms, etc.), which is why theme/color choice is imperative.

Why can't themes/colors be as individual as the individuals who use them?


And I'm glad I can't tweak it too much, otherwise the small imperfections would trigger my latent OCD and I would be wasting my time doing what I used to do with those other two OSes.

Perhaps Macs are best for those with neuroses.

Edited 2009-03-29 18:04 UTC

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CrLf Member since:
2006-01-03

Not sure what this statement implies, but it sounds like RDF logic. Are quality and theme choice mutually exclusive?


Unfortunately, giving users choice is often used in software as a means of releasing developers/designers from the burden of producing good, well thought, defaults. In the particular case of themes, the most customizable environments also seem to have the most hideous defaults.

I'm not saying that the lack of choice is a good thing. But if the users aren't complaining about it, then the defaults must be good, otherwise they would just go somewhere else.

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tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

Unfortunately, giving users choice is often used in software as a means of releasing developers/designers from the burden of producing good, well thought, defaults.

Really? Isn't it also possible that such developers offered choice because of the fact that the user might want to choose the colors of his interface, or because of the fact that the user may want a different video card than the stock card offered by the manufacturer?

Of course, it is a trivial point in regards to whatever the default is and in regards to whether or not one likes the default. In most non-Mac set-ups, one can easily adjust the colors to one's liking, if one doesn't want the defualt colors.


In the particular case of themes, the most customizable environments also seem to have the most hideous defaults.

Interesting assertion. If true, how do you explain the ugly, glaringly-bright Mac theme from the decidedly non-customizable OSX interface?

Could it be that "beauty is in eye of the beholder," and that any notion of theme quality is utterly subjective?


... if the users aren't complaining about it, then the defaults must be good, otherwise they would just go somewhere else.

Or more likely, in the case of OSX:
1. Mac users don't complain about the lack of theme choice (nor can they "just go somehwere else"), because that would be admitting a significant problem with their beloved, pricey machine, about which they have incessantly bragged/shown-off;
2. Mac users have never been offered choice, so they don't know any better, and, thus, they accept what Steve Jobs gives them;
3. It does no good to complain -- Apple will not alter details of its products based on the comments/needs of mere "surface dwellers."

Edited 2009-03-29 19:24 UTC

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