Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Mar 2009 18:43 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Any discussion about GNOME vs. KDE is sure to end in tears. It's basically impossible to discuss which of these two Free desktop environments is better than the other, mostly because they cater to different types of people, with different needs and expectatotions. As such, Bruce Byfield decided to look at the two platforms from a different perspective: if we consider their developmental processes, which of the two is most likely to be more successful in the coming years?
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I don't think so
by Ignacius on Mon 30th Mar 2009 22:02 UTC
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2006-10-10

I don't think Gnome has lost momentum. What is clear is that some parts of it has never been writen an so, part of them and actually being builded. Just see projects such as clutter ( the lack of a gtk/gnome canvas was a very weak point ), webkit, tracker, geoclue and libchamplain or gstreamer and pitivi, gobject-introspection as long as with vala, telepathy, telepathy-tubes for network comunication between remote apps and empathy (which right now supports video/audio conferences) or the new theming code for gtk are just some examples. What finally makes a desktop success are it's applications and for them what is first needed is a good base which basically is what gnome is building.

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RE: I don't think so
by segedunum on Mon 30th Mar 2009 22:17 in reply to "I don't think so"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

What finally makes a desktop success are it's applications and for them what is first needed is a good base which basically is what gnome is building.

Developer's 101: Those things you listed are independent libraries, are not written with any common Gnome toolkit or framework, they all look completely different to a developer and it's not clear at all what applications will use what or even what versions will be used by applications running on the same system. It's a mess, basically.

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RE[2]: I don't think so
by Ignacius on Mon 30th Mar 2009 23:56 in reply to "RE: I don't think so"
Ignacius Member since:
2006-10-10

Developer's 101: Those things you listed are independent libraries, are not written with any common Gnome toolkit or framework, they all look completely different to a developer and it's not clear at all what applications will use what or even what versions will be used by applications running on the same system. It's a mess, basically.


These technologies I have mentioned, are mainly being developed by historical contributors to Gnome, and with Gtk/Gnome in mind (all of them use glib for example or apply to the gnome coding style), others, such as webkit can use other libraries like gnome-keyring which is clearly a gnome library and finally there are libraries like gstreamer or telepathy which actually are part of the core libraries of Gnome. Also, being core technologies, is difficult for them to depend on libraries which are supposed to be in upper levels.

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RE[2]: I don't think so
by cycoj on Tue 31st Mar 2009 03:10 in reply to "RE: I don't think so"
cycoj Member since:
2007-11-04

"What finally makes a desktop success are it's applications and for them what is first needed is a good base which basically is what gnome is building.

Developer's 101: Those things you listed are independent libraries, are not written with any common Gnome toolkit or framework, they all look completely different to a developer and it's not clear at all what applications will use what or even what versions will be used by applications running on the same system. It's a mess, basically.
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Well that's actually a good thing IMO. Why depend on the huge kdelibs components when you only need, e.g. sound functionality. Especially for a developer, why should I choose a framework which limits my application to essentially only one desktop (see my comments earlier).

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RE: I don't think so
by KAMiKAZOW on Tue 31st Mar 2009 01:44 in reply to "I don't think so"
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't think Gnome has lost momentum.

I've read that the number of GNOME developers stayed roughly the same thoughout the past two or so years, while at the same time the number of KDE developers increased.
I have no idea if that is actually true. Even if it is, it doesn't neccessarily mean that the development of GNOME is slowing down. GNOME as always relied mostly on corporate backing with paid full-time developers (most employed by Ximian/Novell, Sun, and Red Hat) while KDE is a community project with only a few full-time devs.

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