Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 30th Mar 2009 18:43 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Any discussion about GNOME vs. KDE is sure to end in tears. It's basically impossible to discuss which of these two Free desktop environments is better than the other, mostly because they cater to different types of people, with different needs and expectatotions. As such, Bruce Byfield decided to look at the two platforms from a different perspective: if we consider their developmental processes, which of the two is most likely to be more successful in the coming years?
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RE[3]: kde vs gnome, qt vs gtk
by KAMiKAZOW on Tue 31st Mar 2009 09:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: kde vs gnome, qt vs gtk"
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KDE applications are made only for the KDE desktop. That makes the applications really unsuitable for any non-KDE environment.

That's not true. Even when I use GNOME or anything else, I still use Kopete and Kontact and it works really well.

I don't want to 10s longer for digikam to start because it loads the KDE components just by Amorak, just because I might use it.

You make it sould like Amarok loads lots of exotic stuff not useful for anything else. Which KDE components used by Amarok are not used by digiKam? Both surely use the directory browser. Both have tool bars. Both have configurable keyboard shortcuts. Both support tagging of files. The list goes on.
That doesn't mean that digiKam loads everything used by Amarok or vice versa. Amarok doesn't load the KiPi plugins for lots of image formats and digiKam doesn't load Amarok's MySQL Emedded database.

I think it's a stupid design decision as well, it limits the scope of KDE apps

It's not stupid. This approach reduces the overall memory foot print.
BTW, real GNOME apps work more or less the same. For example I use GNOME's NetworkManager applet, because the KDE one was not mature when I set up my laptop and now all WLAN passwords are already saved in GNOME's Keyring and I'm too lazy to re-enter them in the now-mature KDE Network Management plasmoid.
nm-applet alone takes roughly 30-60 seconds to start (subjective, I didn't benchmark), because it's the first GNOME app I launch after log-in.

the same job is better done by something like the preload daemon.

Whaat? A stupid preload daemon is a better design decision?
If you want that make your own preload "daemon": Run any background KDE program in autostart.Yakuake (a terminal instpired by command consoles found in games like Quake), Kopete (IMO the best X11 instant messenger and the 2nd best IM overall after Adium for Mac), Amarok (music player), and KMail/Kontact (e-mail/PIM).

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