Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 31st Mar 2009 15:47 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Fedora Core The Fedora team has announced the Fedora 11 beta release. It comes packed with new features, such as Ext4 as the default filesystem, Nouveau driver by default, kernel mode setting on Intel, ATI and Nvidia drivers, many virtualization improvements, IBus input method, GCC 4.4, and much more.
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RE: Ext4 as default
by Rahul on Tue 31st Mar 2009 18:09 UTC in reply to "Ext4 as default"
Rahul
Member since:
2005-07-06

That's not true. The fixes were merged for the kernel ahead of 2.6.30 release and backported to the rawhide kernel a while back. The beta release has the fixes already.

Moreover Eric Sandeen, one of the primary developers of Ext4 is a Red Hat developer and Fedora has included Ext4 as a option right from Fedora 9 release. We have solid testing, feedback and fixes for several releases now.

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RE[2]: Ext4 as default
by broch on Tue 31st Mar 2009 18:55 in reply to "RE: Ext4 as default"
broch Member since:
2006-05-04

1) no "we" don't have solid testing because all this happened
2)2.6.30 is planned for summer (?) so it is not here yet
3) no it is not the same with backporting (there are some problems)
4) read Linus comment about ext4 about at lkml after 2.6.29 release.

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RE[3]: Ext4 as default
by Rahul on Tue 31st Mar 2009 19:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Ext4 as default"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

I will trust the Ext4 developers assertions better than a random poster. If you have actual descriptions of problems, let me know. Rawhide kernel has all the patches that is going into 2.6.30. Linus has commented on Ext3 as well. No big deal. Again, if you don't have specific bug reports on actual issues, there is nothing much to do. Ext3 continues to remain as a option if you want to pick a conservative choice.

Edited 2009-03-31 19:08 UTC

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RE[3]: Ext4 as default
by sbergman27 on Tue 31st Mar 2009 19:09 in reply to "RE[2]: Ext4 as default"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

read Linus comment about ext4 about at lkml after 2.6.29 release.

I've been waiting for that. Could you post a link. I'll be googling for it. But in the twisty, tangly web of lkml posts, one never knows if he's seen all the relevant ones.

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RE[3]: Ext4 as default
by aaronb on Tue 31st Mar 2009 19:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Ext4 as default"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes a few distributions will include the set of patches even if they are shipping 2.6.28 or 2.6.29.

There is quite a lot info on ext 4 at:
http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/

And a FOSDEM2009 video at:
http://fosdem.unixheads.org/2009/maintracks/

Edited 2009-03-31 19:23 UTC

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RE[3]: Ext4 as default
by WereCatf on Tue 31st Mar 2009 19:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Ext4 as default"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

2)2.6.30 is planned for summer (?) so it is not here yet
3) no it is not the same with backporting (there are some problems)


No, 2.6.30 is not released yet so that's why the fixes were backported. And what is the problem with backporting a patch to an earlier kernel? I'd love to hear your explanation. The patch is essentially exactly the same, the difference is just that the backport patch compiles fine against an older kernel.

4) read Linus comment about ext4 about at lkml after 2.6.29 release.

From what I understood Linus was mostly complaining about the default settings for ext4 which could cause dataloss. However, you only need to specify one single option when mounting ext4 and the problem goes away.

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