Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 31st Mar 2009 15:47 UTC, submitted by Rahul
Fedora Core The Fedora team has announced the Fedora 11 beta release. It comes packed with new features, such as Ext4 as the default filesystem, Nouveau driver by default, kernel mode setting on Intel, ATI and Nvidia drivers, many virtualization improvements, IBus input method, GCC 4.4, and much more.
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RE[4]: Ext4 as default
by Rahul on Tue 31st Mar 2009 19:17 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Ext4 as default"
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Try the thread on

There are multiple sub-threads on that topic so you will have to go back and forth a bit.

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RE[5]: Ext4 as default
by sbergman27 on Tue 31st Mar 2009 19:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Ext4 as default"
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Thanks. The first one I found with my google search was this doozy, in which Linus goes so far as to label Ted "incompetent":

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Theodore Tso wrote:
> Try ext4, I think you'll like it. :-)
> Failing that, data=writeback for single-user machines is probably your best bet.

Isn't that the same fix? ext4 just defaults to the crappy "writeback" behavior, which is insane. Sure, it makes things _much_ smoother, since now the actual data is no longer in the critical path for any journal writes, but anybody who thinks that's a solution is just incompetent.

We might as well go back to ext2 then. If your data gets written out long after the metadata hit the disk, you are going to hit all kinds of bad issues if the machine ever goes down.


Edited 2009-03-31 19:25 UTC

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