Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Apr 2009 13:48 UTC
Bugs & Viruses We're well and deep into April 1 now, and if you were to believe some of the reports and hype on the internet, we should've all been paying in bottle caps right about now. As any sane person already saw coming, the Windows worm Conficker didn't do anything. It just kind of sat there, patiently mocking all those who did not update their machines properly.
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RE[4]: April Fools
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 1st Apr 2009 17:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: April Fools"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Blaming the users for the holes in Windows security is lame. Why are there holes in the security in the first place?


Because bug-free code is impossible to write. Only agencies like NASA can write bug-free code, but that does mean that in the hypothetical case NASA were to write a general-purpose operating system, it would cost upward of 10000 EUR per copy - probably a hell of a lot more.

We are modding you down because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Starting with Windows Vista (and to a lesser extent, XP SP2) Windows is a pretty damn secure operating system. The only recent case of massive failure is this Conficker thing, which doesn't count since it only affects unpatched system.

Satan666, I know you are the person who systematically mods down almost each and every of my posts, we have insights into those things, you know. It's kind of funny that you complain about being modded down while you yourself abuse our system so thoroughly.

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RE[5]: April Fools
by PlatformAgnostic on Wed 1st Apr 2009 18:40 in reply to "RE[4]: April Fools"
PlatformAgnostic Member since:
2006-01-02

What makes you think NASA writes bug-free code? They just test their code, have some redundancy in their systems, and don't have to put up with malicious users.

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RE[6]: April Fools
by sbergman27 on Wed 1st Apr 2009 19:14 in reply to "RE[5]: April Fools"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

What makes you think NASA writes bug-free code?

I've been following NASA lately. There's some really exciting stuff going on. For example, the Kepler mission is going to give us a remarkably reliable statistical map of "Earth-like" planets in their stars' "habitable zones" in just 3 or 4 years. But... as Thom asserts... it's not bug-free code[1]:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/news/keplerm-20090330.html

My assertion is that software projects, including those at Microsoft (and yeah, Mozilla), have come to expect that we won't roast them for being careless. (Hell, we heap praise upon Mozilla for being careless... after they release the fix.) And the more lax we become in our insistence upon quality, the more lax they will become in their development and release practices.

I used to despise DJ Bernstein and his attitudes. These days I'm not so sure.

[1] It is, however, well thought out and resilient.

Edited 2009-04-01 19:24 UTC

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RE[5]: April Fools
by NiceGuyEddie on Wed 1st Apr 2009 22:58 in reply to "RE[4]: April Fools"
NiceGuyEddie Member since:
2006-03-22

Because bug-free code is impossible to write. Only agencies like NASA can write bug-free code


I assume that your irony levels are somewhat on the high level there!?

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