OSNews > Thread > "RE[9]: you know what sucks?" by sbergman27

Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Apr 2009 16:12 UTC, submitted by Rahul

Only a few days ago, we ran an article on the future of KDE and GNOME, and which of the two had the brighter future based on their developmental processes. Barely has that discussion ended, or the GNOME engineering team comes with a pretty daunting plan to introduce a fairly massive reworking of the GNOME interface for GNOME 3.0 (2.30). Read on for the details.

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RE[9]: you know what sucks?

by sbergman27 on Sun 5th Apr 2009 14:43 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: you know what sucks?"

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2005-07-24

Yep, that's wrong. How do you suggest to fix it? If Cervisia is installed, I guess you can assume ppl will use it, right? Maybe that app should only install these submenu items when asked to? Then some users will never find it.

I think that there is no way around a lot of hard, boring work to resolve this. Hard work in the name of usability is something that the KDE team traditionally does well. But boring work? Not so well.

Someone is going to have to bite the bullet and look at things on a case by case basis.

And don't look at me. Another project has already shown that it is willing to take on the hard work and the boring work. And it is what I and my users have been able to depend upon every day.

The KDE guys often say that they "do it for fun". But sometimes essential usability work is not fun.

Edited 2009-04-05 14:46 UTC

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RE[10]: you know what sucks?

by superstoned on Sun 5th Apr 2009 19:29 in reply to "RE[9]: you know what sucks?"

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2005-07-07

Pretty weak response, bergman. Did you even read my post or didn't you get further than the line you quoted?

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RE[11]: you know what sucks?

by sbergman27 on Mon 6th Apr 2009 02:57 in reply to "RE[10]: you know what sucks?"

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2005-07-24

Pretty weak response, bergman. Did you even read my post or didn't you get further than the line you quoted?

I thought we had agreed upon civility as the venue of the day. I guess I was wrong.

You asked. And I gave you my best advice regarding what it takes to achieve true usability. But since it involved working on boring stuff, you as a KDE dev instantly rejected it. No surprise there. I have been watching you guys shirk your responsibilities for years.

Edited 2009-04-06 02:58 UTC

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