Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Apr 2009 11:05 UTC, submitted by Anne
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris The RC2 release of Mandriva Linux 2009 Spring (code name Estephe) is now available. This RC2 version provides some updates on major desktop components of the distribution, including KDE 4.2.2, GNOME 2.26, X.org server 1.6, and kernel 2.6.29. This RC2 version proposes also nearly all of the 2009 Spring design. This version will allow you also to dump in a very easy way All available One hybrid isos on a USB key and then install Mandriva Linux on netbooks.
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Any netbook users out there?
by fretinator on Tue 7th Apr 2009 17:49 UTC
fretinator
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2005-07-06

I am still searching for the "right" distro for my Asus 1000HE. Under Windows it gets 8+ hours of battery life. So far I have tried Ubuntu NBR, EeeBuntu 2.0 and Moblin. I have also tried all kinds of kernel hacks (hpet), acpi stuff, EeeApplet, Eee Control, etc. The only distro so far that had given me a good battery life is Moblin, but it WAY too alpha for me. Any reports on battery life and Mandriva? Battery life and portability are the whole reason I bought a netbook. I hate giving up 2-3 hours of battery life just to run Linux.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I am still searching for the "right" distro for my Asus 1000HE. Under Windows it gets 8+ hours of battery life. So far I have tried Ubuntu NBR, EeeBuntu 2.0 and Moblin. I have also tried all kinds of kernel hacks (hpet), acpi stuff, EeeApplet, Eee Control, etc. The only distro so far that had given me a good battery life is Moblin, but it WAY too alpha for me. Any reports on battery life and Mandriva? Battery life and portability are the whole reason I bought a netbook. I hate giving up 2-3 hours of battery life just to run Linux.

I hear you. Linux was not built with power-saving in mind, it was slapped on afterwards, so it's still quite raw and needs a lot of work. Especially if you ever want it to Just Work (TM) without much (or any) user-made configuration.

But, have you changed the hard disk sleep timer timeout? The command id "hdparm -S somenumberhere" (check man page). And http://samwel.tk/laptop_mode/ might be a useful site for you. Can't you help more than that, I don't own any laptop or netbook :/

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

I will give it a look see, thanks for the suggestion. I am open to other suggestions as well.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Linux was not built with power-saving in mind, it was slapped on afterwards, so it's still quite raw and needs a lot of work. Especially if you ever want it to Just Work (TM) without much (or any) user-made configuration.


The work for this is just coming out now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4#KDE_4.2

"New applications include PowerDevil, a power management system for controlling various aspects of mobile devices."


http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/desktop.php

"KDE 4.2 supports your mobile life. Owners of netbooks and other small devices will appreciate the work on making applications usable on small screens. Many configuration screens like those in Konqueror and Kontact have been redesigned to fit. Another benefit for mobile users is that power usage has been reduced all throughout the KDE software. The frequent wakeups from the core applications like Plasma and KWin have been eliminated, making sure you get the most from your battery.

Besides these improvements, PowerDevil introduces a new way of managing power. Instead of being a separate tool, PowerDevil is an integral part of KDE. You don't have to run a specific application to have access to its functionality. It is configurable within System Settings (under the Advanced tab), and can be controlled with a Plasma widget on the panel or desktop if you want."


Powerdevil and the power usage reductions in KDE are only available in KDE 4.2 or later.

http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/screenshots/powerdevil.png

Edited 2009-04-08 00:23 UTC

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I am still searching for the "right" distro for my Asus 1000HE. Under Windows it gets 8+ hours of battery life. So far I have tried Ubuntu NBR, EeeBuntu 2.0 and Moblin. I have also tried all kinds of kernel hacks (hpet), acpi stuff, EeeApplet, Eee Control, etc. The only distro so far that had given me a good battery life is Moblin, but it WAY too alpha for me. Any reports on battery life and Mandriva? Battery life and portability are the whole reason I bought a netbook. I hate giving up 2-3 hours of battery life just to run Linux.


Running KDE 4.2 should help to address this issue. KDE 4.2 made specific design provision for extending battery life on netbooks, notebooks and laptops.

I'm not sure that it would matter exactly what distribution it was that you used, though.

There are significant improvements in the kernel of late, so any distribution that ships with 2.6.28+ or preferably 2.6.29 will also improve battery life, and give you a welcome performance uplift as a bonus.

The only current distribution that implements KDE 4.2 right now that I know of is Arch Linux with KDEmod. The Chakra project is a LiveCD GUI installer that implements this, but the Chakra project itself is still in alpha. I am in the process of installing this on my ASUS EEEPC 1000H right now, but it is not for the skittish. The USB image of Chakra failed, so I have had to go via the bare-bones USB image of Arch 2009.02 and then manually install KDEmod. Not recommended ... but possible to do for those with patience enough.

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=05336

Arch is, however, optimised for i686, and it does have a very slick version of KDE 4.2 in KDEmod. This can probably be considered as the performance leader, and it is quite viable to run it on a netbook.

Mandriva is generally a very good implementation of KDE. I will try this RC2 when I get a chance.

Kubuntu 9.04 beta is promising, but KDE is a bit of a second-class citizen for Ubuntu, so this distro lacks a bit of TLC. Nevertheless, it does work on a netbook.

Fedora 11 should be good ... but the hard disk installer of the recent RC LiveCD of Fedora failed, so I could only try it as a LiveCD, and therefore I can't comment on its relative performance. Since netbooks do not have CDs, I haven't as yet been able to run this on a netbook.

I personally don't like SuSe (mostly because of YAST and RPMs), so I haven't tried OpenSuSe 11.1, and so I have no comment on it.

Mint has a KDE 4.2 variation as a release candidate, but the kernel they are using is a bit older. It still might be worth looking at when they release it though.

Keep in mind though that OpenSuse, Fedora, Kubuntu, Mint and Mandriva which have KDE 4.2 are all still in pre-release stages.

Edited 2009-04-07 23:45 UTC

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I am still searching for the "right" distro for my Asus 1000HE. Under Windows it gets 8+ hours of battery life. So far I have tried Ubuntu NBR, EeeBuntu 2.0 and Moblin. I have also tried all kinds of kernel hacks (hpet), acpi stuff, EeeApplet, Eee Control, etc. The only distro so far that had given me a good battery life is Moblin, but it WAY too alpha for me. Any reports on battery life and Mandriva? Battery life and portability are the whole reason I bought a netbook. I hate giving up 2-3 hours of battery life just to run Linux.


KDE also apparently has a plan for a specific version of plasma designed with netbooks in mind.

http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/04/plasma-on-netbooks.html

They are targetting KDE 4.4 for this, so it should be available in January next year.

Interestingly enough, while KDE has now gone to a six monthly release cycle, and it is GNOME which is now thinking about going through a difficult transition stage:

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article.php/3814021/

You can almost imagine that Shuttleworth is wondering here if he backed the right horse.

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wakeupneo Member since:
2005-07-06

You can almost imagine that Shuttleworth is wondering here if he backed the right horse.


Well...since he decided to utilise the strength of Debian as the base, he didn't really have much of an option on that front. Back then, the licensing for Qt wasn't quite where it needed to be, so KDE wasn't applicable. That's all changed now of course, but once they started down that road the die was cast. It'll be interesting to see if Kubuntu can mature enough to give it some serious competition. Personally, I don't see it happening but we live in hope...

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