Linked by Rahul on Thu 9th Apr 2009 21:15 UTC
GTK+ The Gtk+ team is working on a roadmap to structure the development process of the Gtk+ 3.0 release and to open up the involved decision making progress. The first draft has been sent to the devel mailing list, and is now open for debate. Coincidentally, the draft roadmap also provides a nice overview of the features and changes planned for Gtk+ 3.0.
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RE[5]: How about
by ciplogic on Fri 10th Apr 2009 11:58 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: How about"
ciplogic
Member since:
2006-12-22

This oppinion of HUGE buttons on GTK is a misleading wording and customs.

Windows (and KDE which tries to resemble it) makes the buttons more compact. I am not gonna argue if is good or not, but when you go to a theme that say: 6 pixels around you text to be blank, and 12 pixels around button to be again blank, you will see around 20 pixels around buttons. Do you know what is the worse? When you go back to Windows: you will see that buttons are not put in the same 12 pixels place, and you will click wrong...

So is a different philosophy. Want to know small toolbar based on GTK? Nokia tablets which use Maemo have small widgets. N770 was first of them.

About big buttons in menus/toolbars in Ubuntu, I'm kinda agree but also I think that is a very good approach: a person with lower skill on pointing a button will hit it more probably than a small button.

Looking ugly on you: don't use!

One last thing that you've got an image about how great/bad are looking are some things to you: you: you use KDE and KDE till KDE 4 HAVE NO HIG, means no standard UI. Fully agree that buttons were smaller, and it can apply even to your GTK applications. But you miss the point: GNOME is mainly an UI for dumb users. I had loved KDE 3 at it's start, but when I jumped to GNOME, I had found one thing: the UI is invisible to me, I rarely click wrong a menu button or a button, and even I have something really hard to lose: I make a reflex to click OK or Cancel, because of their placing...

Going to Vista for instance, you will hate the day you are there: nothing match! Take for instance: Desktop->Properties and you will see a lot of mess, continue with Control Panel and Media Player, IE and Explorer.

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RE[6]: How about
by OSGuy on Fri 10th Apr 2009 14:29 in reply to "RE[5]: How about"
OSGuy Member since:
2006-01-01

One last thing that you've got an image about how great/bad are looking are some things to you: you: you use KDE and KDE till KDE 4 HAVE NO HIG, means no standard UI. Fully agree that buttons were smaller, and it can apply even to your GTK applications. But you miss the point: GNOME is mainly an UI for dumb users. I had loved KDE 3 at it's start, but when I jumped to GNOME, I had found one thing: the UI is invisible to me, I rarely click wrong a menu button or a button, and even I have something really hard to lose: I make a reflex to click OK or Cancel, because of their placing...

In my opinion it is not about clicking on the wrong button but the appearance of the GUI.

I was hoping it will never come to this but I am going to have to show this:

http://ecomstation.com/gallery/gal/eComStation_2.0/ecs20_screen2.jp... -- See that panel/taskbar + toolbars. Not bad at all? Too bad eCS doesn't run on my hardware.

http://toastytech.com/guis/ecsdfolders.png

Now that's ecstasy. You see how neat that toolbar is? (the discussion here is GTK and not Linux)

http://ecomstation.com/gallery/gal/OpenOffice_2.0_beta/OOo20_010.pn...

I am not mentioning Windows here delibireately just to show you that someone out there does it right (oops eComStation IS Windows).

http://ecomstation.com/gallery/gal/eComStation_2.0/ecs20_screen5.jp...

Edited 2009-04-10 14:37 UTC

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