Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 12th Apr 2009 20:09 UTC
3D News, GL, DirectX LinuxFund and the Open Graphics Project are teaming up to raise funds and supply 10 Open Graphics Development boards to open source developers. After several years in development the Open Graphics project is offering pre-orders of development boards. The Open Graphics Project aims to design an open source hardware/open architecture and standard for graphics cards, primarily targeting free software/open source operating systems. LinuxFund is accepting donations on their website to help fund the project. Additionally you can pre-order an OGD1 board for yourself through Traversal Technology.
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RE[2]: Good Luck
by Brendan on Tue 14th Apr 2009 00:41 UTC in reply to "RE: Good Luck"
Brendan
Member since:
2005-11-16

Hi,

While I'm excited to see this project progress, I wouldn't get my hopes too high about performance... According to this page (http://wiki.opengraphics.org/tiki-index.php?page=OGPN17) they are expecting this card to perform a bit above a Radeon 7000 or a GeForce 2, which was state of the art nearly ten years ago. I'll probably get one of these in the future if they can produce them cheap enough (


A "top of the line" Nvidia card with no device driver (e.g. using VBE and doing everything in software) would probably be a lot slower than one of these with full support for hardware acceleration. I think you're under-estimating the value of open documentation, especially for every OS that isn't Windows.

-Brendan

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RE[3]: Good Luck
by abraxas on Tue 14th Apr 2009 16:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Good Luck"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

A "top of the line" Nvidia card with no device driver (e.g. using VBE and doing everything in software) would probably be a lot slower than one of these with full support for hardware acceleration. I think you're under-estimating the value of open documentation, especially for every OS that isn't Windows.

-Brendan


While this is true if you can get a system that comes with an onboard Intel video card that has better performance, for a lower price, and has open source drivers then what niche will this card fill? AMD/ATI has also been opening up documentation and providing code.

I applaud the effort but the graphics stack and documentation has come a long way since this project was conceived and its relevance is in question if it cannot offer something above and beyond what is available now. It has to beat existing manufacturers in price, performance, or openness. From the beginning they were gunning for openness but this has changed a great deal in the past couple of years and I doubt they have the resources to offer better performance or a better price.

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RE[4]: Good Luck
by gustl on Wed 15th Apr 2009 16:08 in reply to "RE[3]: Good Luck"
gustl Member since:
2006-01-19

It has to beat existing manufacturers in price, performance, or openness. From the beginning they were gunning for openness but this has changed a great deal in the past couple of years and I doubt they have the resources to offer better performance or a better price.


I think it is something of a chicken/egg problem. the efforts around OGD probably made Nvidia and ATI aware that there indeed is a third dimension next to price and performance. And having one open hardware vendor around would ensure ATI and NVIDIA stay open enough.

Whoever is more open will win the Linux market, with performance being of minor importance and the price even less so.
Loads of people are perfectly willing to spend $150 to $200 for a graphics card with a quarter of the performance of a top notch NVIDIA or ATI graphics card which would just cost the same. They would do that because it would mean ultra-long support times in the kernel, no installation/upgrade hassles, just plug an play.

I know it would be the first thing to buy once it is available, and I guess millions on this planet would think similar. I am even thinking of buying the development board once it comes "pre-flashed" as a graphics card, a good documentation how to reprogram it, and some tools to load up the new hardware layout to it.

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