Linked by Rahul on Wed 15th Apr 2009 08:58 UTC
Linux PulseAudio 0.9.15 has been released with many new features. Phoronix covers the changes: "PulseAudio 0.9.15 introduces native support of Bluetooth audio devices using BlueZ, Apple Airport Express support, flat volume support (similar to Vista's audio controls), on-the-fly reconfiguration of audio devices, and native support for 24-bit samples. The on-the-fly reconfiguration of audio devices is great and as a result there is now proper S/PDIF support. With the release of PulseAudio 0.9.15 also comes an update to the PulseAudio Volume Control program. The PulseAudio Volume Control 0.9.8 update brings support for configuring sound card profiles and various other updates."
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Useless
by Invincible Cow on Wed 15th Apr 2009 13:01 UTC
Invincible Cow
Member since:
2006-06-24

PulseAudio only serves to fix a problem which was never there and break everything in the process.
PulseAudio introduces extra latency and how anyone in their right mind would want to do that just to get no additional functionality whatsoever (except maybe separate volume controls for applications, which OSS4 already has) is beyond me.

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RE: Useless
by Ulenrich on Wed 15th Apr 2009 13:19 in reply to "Useless"
Ulenrich Member since:
2007-04-26

In science it is called Paradigmenwechsel (Kuhn, Feyerabend), which means a potential far better Ansatz in his first stage is far less usable.
Like Kde4 - Pulseaudio climbs to the next stage now ?

Edited 2009-04-15 13:26 UTC

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RE: Useless
by darknexus on Wed 15th Apr 2009 18:15 in reply to "Useless"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

A problem that was never there? Do you not use USB audio devices, or do all your cards to perfect hardware sample conversions?
ALSA, imho, was a bad idea but we're stuck with all it's crap and now we have yet another layer to cover up the crap ALSA is. PA is required for any of my USB audio devices to work, precisely because it does these things in software--sample rate conversions, channel conversions, and so on. Windows and OS X do these in software as well... which is one of the reasons their audio works properly with most external audio devices. Linux, on the other hand... well, I suspect audio will always be a big fail. Rather than using OSS like all other UNIX platforms do, we had to reinvent the wheel yet again. ALSA are decent *drivers* but nothing more, Dmix is garbage if you need any type of quality out of it on anything but perfect hardware, and the alsa devs do not want it fixed. Hense the need for a software layer to cover up the garbage that is ALSA's mixing.

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RE[2]: Useless
by Invincible Cow on Thu 16th Apr 2009 14:25 in reply to "RE: Useless"
Invincible Cow Member since:
2006-06-24

No, I don't use USB audio devices, and that's because USB audio devices are useless. You see, the whole USB audio thing is flaky and won't ever give you the performance of a firewire audio device.

If you don't need that performance, why would you invest in an expensive soundcard?

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RE[2]: Useless
by segedunum on Sat 18th Apr 2009 19:15 in reply to "RE: Useless"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

A problem that was never there? Do you not use USB audio devices, or do all your cards to perfect hardware sample conversions?

I've had a pair of USB speakers that worked reliably before PulseAudio was even a glint in someone's eye.

ALSA, imho, was a bad idea but we're stuck with all it's crap and now we have yet another layer to cover up the crap ALSA is.

You know, I keep hearing the 'ALSA is crap' argument from people in order to justify PulseAudio but I don't see any justification for sticking another layer on top of it that makes basic things (sound coming out of your speakers for instance) far less reliable than what went before. PulseAudio was a knee-jerk response to what Vista was doing and nothing more.

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RE: Useless
by panzi on Thu 16th Apr 2009 00:53 in reply to "Useless"
panzi Member since:
2006-01-22

> PulseAudio only serves to fix a problem which was never there and break everything in the process.

Precisely!

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