Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Apr 2009 11:15 UTC, submitted by csynt
Legal Old World 1, New World 0. The four defendants in the landmark The Pirate Bay case, taking place in Sweden, have all been found guilty, and sentenced to one year in jail. They also received a hefty fine of USD 3.58 million to 17 American media companies, among which are Warner Bros. Entertainment, MGM Pictures, Columbia Pictures Industries, Twentieth Century Fox Film, Sony BMG, Universal, EMI, Blizzard Entertainment, Sierra Entertainment, and Activision. The defendants have already stated they will appeal the decision.
Thread beginning with comment 359300
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE: Suck
by Kokopelli on Sat 18th Apr 2009 19:48 UTC in reply to "Suck"
Kokopelli
Member since:
2005-07-06

Freedom fighters? Exactly what are they freedom fighters for? Free Music? They may stand against the RIAA/MPAA but that is not what this case was about. If you want to fight the big megacorps then go for independent labels, don't distribute their works (legally or illegally)

Standing up for the truth? Exactly what truth might that be?

They are the controllers of a very prominent bit torrent tracker. They have voiced their opinion that they believe they are not breaking the law and that if their users are breaking the law then it is the users problem. This puts them at the forefront of the battle of users copying entertainment versus the producers but it does not make them freedom fighters.

Let's just call them what they are. Avant garde in tech if you must, but not truth seekers or freedom fighters, that is just a load of crap. They facilitate copyright infringement on a massive scale and run a site dedicated to just that. This makes many people happy and gives them easy access to free copies of media but that is it. This may or may not be legal in Sweden and honestly I do not care. Legal or illegal, right or wrong, this is what they are doing and what made them "famous."

Reply Parent Score: 3

RE[2]: Suck
by ssa2204 on Sun 19th Apr 2009 06:09 in reply to "RE: Suck"
ssa2204 Member since:
2006-04-22

Freedom fighters? Exactly what are they freedom fighters for? Free Music? They may stand against the RIAA/MPAA but that is not what this case was about. If you want to fight the big megacorps then go for independent labels, don't distribute their works (legally or illegally)

Standing up for the truth? Exactly what truth might that be?

They are the controllers of a very prominent bit torrent tracker. They have voiced their opinion that they believe they are not breaking the law and that if their users are breaking the law then it is the users problem. This puts them at the forefront of the battle of users copying entertainment versus the producers but it does not make them freedom fighters.

Let's just call them what they are. Avant garde in tech if you must, but not truth seekers or freedom fighters, that is just a load of crap. They facilitate copyright infringement on a massive scale and run a site dedicated to just that. This makes many people happy and gives them easy access to free copies of media but that is it. This may or may not be legal in Sweden and honestly I do not care. Legal or illegal, right or wrong, this is what they are doing and what made them "famous."


Very good post! What was written here is the closest to what I consider the truth about the whole subject. I find the arguments defending them to be rather immature and poorly thought out. They were not fighting for any rights or freedoms, other than the freedom to promote piracy. Honestly I really could give a damn, but what bugs me is the disingenuous defense given by their defenders. The truth of the matter is people are just nervous their favorite site to obtain pirated software and movies may go away.

The only thing that bugs the living shit out of me is that way too many of the people that defend PB, just happen to be the same people whining about DRM, anti piracy protection, and copy protection schemes. How f**king dumb does one have to be to not connect the dots.

Reply Parent Score: 4

RE[3]: Suck
by gustl on Sun 19th Apr 2009 16:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Suck"
gustl Member since:
2006-01-19

I DO have a problem with locking up people who provide a service which CAN be used to do something illegal.

I guess this will be overturned, even if it has to be at the third instance.

Reply Parent Score: 2