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RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by dagw on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 11:02
in reply to "RE[4]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense"
I am merely stating what I feel is a fact that most of these netbooks are an indulgence
For most people any laptop is an indulgence. As is an mp3 player, xbox and any other gadget you care to mention.
In fact looking around my appartment I see nothing that I consider a necessity, even the computer I'm typing this on is something I can live without, as is my TV, all my books, my furniture and most the food in my fridge. For that matter I could probably live in an apartment half the size of this one so even this apartment is an indulgence. Any argument based on 'necessity' is stupid and flawed.
But let's be honest here folks, most of these netbooks are being bought buy tech geeks just eating up the latest fad gadget.
I can't speak for the rest of the world, but that certainly doesn't seem to be true from what I've seen. The vast majority of people I see using and buying netbooks are just normal folk who want a small and cheap laptop. In fact at the university where I live I see more netbooks among the humanities students than among the the science and engineering students.
I also know several people for whom a netbook is the first laptop they've owned. They've considered getting a latop before, but always found them to big and/or expensive.
And that goes for 90% of people that claim a cell phone is a necessity, it is not
True, and neither is a home internet connection. But I doubt most people here would be willing to give that up either.
RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by aesiamun on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 12:01
in reply to "RE[4]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense"
RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by Laurence on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 12:20
in reply to "RE[4]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense"
I don't say that nobody ever has a need, I am merely stating what I feel is a fact that most of these netbooks are an indulgence to say the least.First off nobody needs, they want. Given your example, none really provides a need, merely a convenience at the most. Your girlfriend could easily just write notes on paper, Essays could be better written at a desk or study. And as for keeping in touch with you, that is a convenience not a necessity.
Seriously, why do you come on a technology news site?
The whole point of technology is to provide a convenience over manual processes. So, given this is a technology news site, your argument is completely pointless.
But let's be honest here folks, most of these netbooks are being bought buy tech geeks just eating up the latest fad gadget.
Got any stats to back up that bold claim, or is it just a guess made up on your part to emphasise your earlier point?
The reason I'm asking you to back up your claim is because my own personal observations have seen more non-geeks netbook owners who were after ultra-portable devices than geeks after new toys.
Very few people need these, that is a fact.
You don't need an internet connection, yet you do have one.
You don't need to browse OSNews nor reply. Yet you did.
If you really beieved non-nessesity technology should be culled, then you wouldn't even be on here to make your point.
Like the iPhone or iPod, geek toys that provide a self-indulgence, but neither are anything close to being of real need.
Self-indulgence drives technology.
If we stuck to the bare minimum of what we needed, then you wouldn't even have a computer let alone braudband internet connection to argue this perculiar point on.
And I find the argument very weak when considering how light some notebooks have gotten these days, that lugging one around is that much of a pain.
But netbooks are still much lighter and more compact. Thus they are more convenient, thus they are more practical and thus it makes more sense for her to buy a netbook.
I really don't see why you don't get this point.
And that goes for 90% of people that claim a cell phone is a necessity, it is not, but rather a means for some to feel more important in life than they really are.
Are you a hippy by any chance?
Edited 2009-04-22 12:26 UTC
RE[6]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by ssa2204 on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 13:18
in reply to "RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense"
My this seemed to have touched a nerve with some, my the mere suggestion that some are buying this merely to fulfill a need to get in on the latest fad gadget.
Now go back to the highlighed quote:
I'd buy one, even if just for a toy.
This is to say it sums up what many are in fact buying these for. How long have netbooks been around, and yet not a single business client of ours has ever expressed any interest. Netbook sales: 0%, Laptop sales: 100%. That is a pretty damning figure when I consider what businesses seem to value. In talks with other people I know in the B2B/VAR/Consultant, the same statistics seem to carry over. Sure they may evolve into a decent tool, but please do not give me some bullshit at this point that these are not merely geek toys at the moment. I think I have seen quite a few comments, no make that an abundance of comments over the past years, that give a pretty clear picture of why people want these.
When these netbooks first arrived, people were merely salivating at getting their hands on them, yet I never did see a good suggestion as to why someone wanted these. Good for the person in particular that actually finds one useful. But the sales as a whole pretty much indicates to me that young people are just buying these up out of consumer fetish.
Granted, on OSNews, it's a pretty safe guess that a reader has a desktop, notebook and potentially a netbook or is interested in one. In that case, it would be an additional machine though may not be an indulgence. That is rather far off your grand sweeping statement that the netbook market is only exploding at the whims of people with too much money and time no there hands.
After the desktop and laptop, it begs the question of what the use for a netbook other than to catch the train so to speak. Maybe this is just a generational gap. But I think it speaks volumes how defensive people are to the mere suggestions they paid for a fad. To me I find this no different than those that purchase the latest greatest video card every 6 months just to have the fastest card available.
RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by parrotjoe on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 16:06
in reply to "RE[4]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense"
RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by dpederson on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 17:13
in reply to "RE[4]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense"
Since probably 95% of people only do email and surf the web with a rare foré into writing a short document, the netbook is supremely well suited to their needs. Why lug around a 5-8 lb. item when a 2.5 lb. netbook does everything you need? By your logic, no one "needs" a laptop either. They can use a ball point or wait till they get home to work on a computer. Who needs to work on the train or bus...
RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by StephenBeDoper on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 17:39
in reply to "RE[4]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense"
Your girlfriend could easily just write notes on paper, Essays could be better written at a desk or study.
By that reasoning, any computer or technological advancement could be considered an "indulgence."
Why purchase clothing, when some animal skins would protect you from the elements? Why buy decent cooking knives, when you could just prepare a meal using some sharpened rock?
And as for keeping in touch with you, that is a convenience not a necessity.
Well, yeah - that's how most commerce works: you trade money for convenience.
RE[5]: Without a touch screen Android makes no sense
by parrotjoe on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 23:02
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So, Just because you have no real need for a netbook, don't assume that nobody has.
I don't say that nobody ever has a need, I am merely stating what I feel is a fact that most of these netbooks are an indulgence to say the least.First off nobody needs, they want. Given your example, none really provides a need, merely a convenience at the most. Your girlfriend could easily just write notes on paper, Essays could be better written at a desk or study. And as for keeping in touch with you, that is a convenience not a necessity.
But let's be honest here folks, most of these netbooks are being bought buy tech geeks just eating up the latest fad gadget. Very few people need these, that is a fact. Like the iPhone or iPod, geek toys that provide a self-indulgence, but neither are anything close to being of real need. And I find the argument very weak when considering how light some notebooks have gotten these days, that lugging one around is that much of a pain. And that goes for 90% of people that claim a cell phone is a necessity, it is not, but rather a means for some to feel more important in life than they really are.