Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Sep 2005 12:17 UTC, submitted by Anonymous
Zeta According to the Cola Coder, an upcoming update to ZETA 1.0 will enable booting from USB devices. This will not only allow installation of ZETA on laptops that do not have an optical drive, but it will also make it possible to install to and run ZETA from a USB memory stick.
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bah...
by MYOB on Sun 25th Sep 2005 15:06 UTC
MYOB
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2005-06-29

Still doesn't have any support of Firewire storage and hence booting isn't possible on the first generations of modern x86 laptops which didn't have optical drives - small Sony Vaio's. Zeta needed to be fought, kicking and screaming, onto this laptop, due to the new installer that doesn't allow the old copy-and-reboot system to work.

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RE: bah...
by Earl Colby pottinger on Sun 25th Sep 2005 15:20 in reply to "bah..."
Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

As far as I know all BeOS versions have always required you to fight to the death to get them onto a Sony Laptop.

Plus if the Sonys have USB which should be all of them, then there should be no problem.

However, I notice your comment about copy/boot. Did Zeta do something dumb that prevents one disk image to boot all systems? Install diffirent files for diffirent systems?

I hope not. One of the tings that makes BeOS so great is the ability to plug a single hard drive into any supporting computer and just boot it. I regularly transfer drives with development work between my LapTop for portability and my DeskTop for memory and speed, and if I have an odd problem pop it into one of my friend's Desktop so he can see what I am doing.

If they did that I understand why you think there are still major limits. USB is fine for me, but one disk image should be all I need to work on diffirent computers.

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RE[2]: bah...
by MYOB on Sun 25th Sep 2005 15:24 in reply to "RE: bah..."
MYOB Member since:
2005-06-29

USB was not bootable until laptops/desktops sold in 2004 or later for the most part. This laptop is from 2002. And theres no BIOS upgrades for them, so no way to add support for it...

BeOS runs fine on all Vaio's I've tried it on, it just needs to be forced onto those without built-in CD-ROM's

You can still move an installed Zeta system, but not having another working x86 laptop worth a damn that wasn't an option - not many old laptops support 80GB 7200RPM ATA133 hard drives. I eventually had to copy all the files onto a new partition from within BeOS, then unzip all the zip'ped up packages, and create a few symlinks myself.

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RE: bah...
by StephenBeDoper on Sun 25th Sep 2005 19:55 in reply to "bah..."
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

I've found that the easiest way to get BeOS installed on laptops without an optical drive is to first install Win98, then install R5 PE under Win98. I did it this way on my old thinkpad; copied an ISO of my R5 CD to the Fat32 partition, booted into PE, mounted the ISO via ImageMounter, and used the installer app to to copy the ISO's contents to a spare partition I'd prepared. Then setup bootman and all was well.

I used win98 because you can usually boot directly into PE from it without needing a bootdisk (and therefore, a floppy drive), which can't be done in NT-based OSes.

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RE[2]: bah...
by MYOB on Sun 25th Sep 2005 20:38 in reply to "RE: bah..."
MYOB Member since:
2005-06-29

This laptop won't boot Win98 (little to no legacy support).

To get R5 onto it when I put in the big HDD, I netbooted Linux, put a 600MB FAT32 partition on it, downloaded the loadbeos.com and the PE image.be/zbeos combo from the net onto that partition, rebooted the machine and netbooted FreeDOS; ran loadbeos.com and installed from there, onto the remaining ~79GB. I then did the voodoo required to get USB Mass Storage working, and ran the R5 Pro installer off my non-bootable USB DVDRW drive.

Zeta doesn't have an image.be, etc, so this can't be done. In fact, without R5, I couldn't have installed it, at all.

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