Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Apr 2009 23:44 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Windows It's something lots of people here on OSNews have been waiting for. It's something we've talked about, something we've theorised about, and something we've declared as the future for Windows' backwards compatibility - and now it's here, and official. Over a month ago, Microsoft bloggers Rafael Rivera and Paul Thurrott have been briefed by Microsoft on a technology for Windows 7 called Windows XP Mode. Available as a free download for Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate users, it's a fully integrated and licensed copy of Windows XP SP3 in a VirtualPC-based environment, with full "coherence" support. In other words, it's Microsoft's variant of Apple's Classic environment, and it's coming to Windows 7, for free. Near-instant update: The Windows 7 RC will indeed be available publicly on May 5. TechNet/MSDN will get it April 30.
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Malware
by John Blink on Fri 24th Apr 2009 23:59 UTC
John Blink
Member since:
2005-10-11

Can it still be infected using classic techniques? If it is a VM then it is a yes.

Also will it get updates beyond xpsp3 end date. I mean will it be supported with security updates for the life of win7. It might be xpsp3 but this is a new product with new packaging.

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RE: Malware
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 25th Apr 2009 00:02 in reply to "Malware"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Can it still be infected using classic techniques? If it is a VM then it is a yes.


I'm sure it will run in a sandbox, so you're pretty safe.

Also will it get updates beyond xpsp3 end date. I mean will it be supported with security updates for the life of win7. It might be xpsp3 but this is a new product with new packaging.


Well, hopefully, patches for the virtual Windows XP will just make their way onto your machine via Windows 7's update panel. It'd be pretty braindead (but oh-so--typically-Microsoft) if you had to use the virtual XP's Windows Update.

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RE[2]: Malware
by kragil on Sat 25th Apr 2009 14:31 in reply to "RE: Malware"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

It might be easy, but it sure will be unsecure.
Of course will all XPM apps have access to your personal files. That is what users want. And MS will do just that. Security does not matter.

VirtualBox gives you the same thing for free on nearly every OS.

Edited 2009-04-25 14:33 UTC

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RE: Malware
by libray on Sun 26th Apr 2009 05:05 in reply to "Malware"
libray Member since:
2005-08-27

Vista is inherently more secure. Windows 7 should be if the pattern is followed correctly. I made sure UAC was _on_ and forced everyone to enter their password for non-trusted binaries.

XPM may run in a sandbox, but it may as well be wiped and reinstalled daily or after each use. We may as well be running a virtual center lightweight host with XP guest. Either way, that guest is _not_ secure just because it runs atop a secure OS. The thought of regressing to an OS capable of failing to stop basic arbitrarily executed code (most malware) from running is not a selling point to me.

Vista is fine and Windows 7 has better UAC flexibility, but this mode is actually crippling. The number of people thinking this is a good move will use it, increasing a demand for continued compatibility for XP, and app makers will not have a need or urgency to step up and fix their apps.

Would it be smug of me to say that anyone who disables security protection such as the UAC or would rather use XP downgrade/XPM after buying their new PC with Vista/Win 7 deserve to have their private data stolen?

- use UAC smartly
- use an os with randomization of code space (like ASLR) - guess which one out of Vista, Win7 and XP doesn't have this
- die xp

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