Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Apr 2009 23:44 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Windows It's something lots of people here on OSNews have been waiting for. It's something we've talked about, something we've theorised about, and something we've declared as the future for Windows' backwards compatibility - and now it's here, and official. Over a month ago, Microsoft bloggers Rafael Rivera and Paul Thurrott have been briefed by Microsoft on a technology for Windows 7 called Windows XP Mode. Available as a free download for Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate users, it's a fully integrated and licensed copy of Windows XP SP3 in a VirtualPC-based environment, with full "coherence" support. In other words, it's Microsoft's variant of Apple's Classic environment, and it's coming to Windows 7, for free. Near-instant update: The Windows 7 RC will indeed be available publicly on May 5. TechNet/MSDN will get it April 30.
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XPM
by OSGuy on Sat 25th Apr 2009 05:16 UTC
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2006-01-01

Can't something like this be done on Linux? I mean, didn't Parallels do something like this on Apple? Running Windows apps as if they were OSX programs? Instead of creating a new window and running everything within a window, the programs are stand-alone with XP border (I think) among the OSX ones and shadow effects on their windows. They even appear on the dock. Why can't the open source community create something like this? You won't ever need WINE and it will be 100% reliable since it's virtualized and XP is what actually is running the programs.

Edited 2009-04-25 05:18 UTC

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RE: XPM
by Windows Sucks on Sat 25th Apr 2009 06:19 in reply to "XPM"
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

Can't something like this be done on Linux? I mean, didn't Parallels do something like this on Apple? Running Windows apps as if they were OSX programs? Instead of creating a new window and running everything within a window, the programs are stand-alone with XP border (I think) among the OSX ones and shadow effects on their windows. They even appear on the dock. Why can't the open source community create something like this? You won't ever need WINE and it will be 100% reliable since it's virtualized and XP is what actually is running the programs.


VirtualBox is open source and is the closest thing. You have seamless mode which is close to how VMware and Parallels does it.

The one thing about running in this manner is that you loose several things that you have with Wine. For one printing is always crazy (Same problem you had with Mac Classic mode) Networking can be a problem, and speed is for sure a problem (So you can't really play games etc)

With Wine if the app runs in Wine then you access a lot more features and also you can run more games etc.

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RE: XPM
by AnyoneEB on Sat 25th Apr 2009 06:19 in reply to "XPM"
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2008-10-26

It still requires an XP license as well as the overhead (at least in memory usage) of running an entire extra OS so it does not really replace the Wine project.

VirtualBox does appear to support separate windows. It calls the feature "seamless mode" which has had support for Windows, Linux, and Solaris guests since v1.6.

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RE[2]: XPM
by OSGuy on Sat 25th Apr 2009 06:36 in reply to "RE: XPM"
OSGuy Member since:
2006-01-01

Seamless mode, hmm I didn't know that. Thanks. In relation to a separate license, in my own opinion, that shouldn't be a problem. The VM would assume the user has a copy of XP. (Ultimate Boot CD for Windows)

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RE[2]: XPM
by kedwards on Sat 25th Apr 2009 07:25 in reply to "RE: XPM"
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2009-04-25

"It still requires an XP license as well as the overhead (at least in memory usage) of running an entire extra OS so it does not really replace the Wine project."

The XP license will be included for free with the download so that really isn't an issue.

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