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Legal "It's possible to use Apple's iPods and iPhone with third-party software, and BluWiki's users wanted to make sure the world could find out how. Apple, however, was not fond of the situation and threatened BluWiki with legal action if the information was not removed. Now, BluWiki's operators are suing Apple in hopes of protecting the free speech of their users and getting a declaratory judgment that posting information does not violate the DMCA."
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Enough is enough....
by nathbeadle on Mon 27th Apr 2009 22:51 UTC
nathbeadle
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2006-08-08

For those who know me on here, I am an Apple fan. Now that I have that out... ARE YOU SERIOUS???

I really think this is getting lame. So a product is out in the market and others have found ways to use it differently.... if they change software or settings on that product then they void support... but it's their call.

Do you ever see car manufacturers stopping all the sites and people who mod their interiors, sound system, engine, etc? Or publishers going after people who cut out the insides of books and use it to secretly hide things?

Wouldn't they rather let people do this on the small chance they'd buy another iPod to tinker on then be like this and potentially lose customers/sales?

Edited 2009-04-27 22:52 UTC

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RE: Enough is enough....
by bousozoku on Tue 28th Apr 2009 14:04 in reply to "Enough is enough...."
bousozoku Member since:
2006-01-23

For those who know me on here, I am an Apple fan. Now that I have that out... ARE YOU SERIOUS???

I really think this is getting lame. So a product is out in the market and others have found ways to use it differently.... if they change software or settings on that product then they void support... but it's their call.

Do you ever see car manufacturers stopping all the sites and people who mod their interiors, sound system, engine, etc? Or publishers going after people who cut out the insides of books and use it to secretly hide things?

Wouldn't they rather let people do this on the small chance they'd buy another iPod to tinker on then be like this and potentially lose customers/sales?


Though car manufacturers create special tools to deal and put parts in odd, difficult areas to support their own mechanics.

I'd say it's just an American/U.S. thing but my VW Golf has the headlight release in such a position that it can't be done by hand.

I'm really upset with Apple over the way they use the iPod line. I don't mind that they want to make money because most everyone does. It's the idea that they don't provide software for *BSD and Linux or even an SDK so people can interface to an iPod, so then they further try to restrict access to what is known.

They make Microsoft-like moves and yet, the fanatics don't see it that way. I still want my Apple products but eventually, someone else will finish a system that works for me and Apple will push me away once too often.

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RE: Enough is enough....
by tyrione on Wed 29th Apr 2009 00:53 in reply to "Enough is enough...."
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

What a brain dead analogy. This is about the entire iPhone structure with iTunes and much, much more that deals with the distribution of all content via iTunes for the iPod/iPod Touch/iPhone and AppleTV platforms.

Apple wins this one.

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RE[2]: Enough is enough....
by Mystif on Thu 30th Apr 2009 16:03 in reply to "RE: Enough is enough...."
Mystif Member since:
2008-05-12

I am sorry, the car analogy is quite appropriate.

If Apple made cars and you bought one you would be able to:
=> Drive on any road and stop anywhere you like - the Internet.
=> Use whatever tires fit, and to paint it as you like - protective covers and accessories.
=> Play any CD you like as long as it is a confirmed store bought original.

You would NOT:
=> Be allowed to listen to any radio stations not approved by Apple.
=> When you place the store bought original CD in the player the songs will be read and stored. The CD will be destroyed, but as an eco-friendly gesture they found a way to burn it cleanly in the engine.
=> Make repairs - the hood would be locked with a key you would not receive. Attempting to even open the hood puts you at risk, but God help you did and then wrote about what you saw.
=> If Apple makes a GPS for your car you can have that GPS. You would prefer or maybe even already own a Garmin or TomTom? Too BAD! Try to use a non-Apple GPS and the next time your car's computers get updated it will simply cease to function.

That is Apple's brand of freedom. I disagree with it.

Not one of my vehicles has ever stayed "Original." My current one came without keyless entry, it has it now - manufacturer version to boot! The information on how to program the first remote without taking the car to the dealer can be found on the Internet. The person(s) who posted this information have never been threatened with lawsuits.

My Cell phones are the same. My Treo 650 (recently retired) can use up to 8GB SDHC memory. It was manufactured to use a max of 1GB non-HC. My current phone is an HTC 8525 - don't get me started, the list is a long one. Suffice it say, that if I did to an iPhone what I have done to my HTC Apple would be seeking the death penalty in my case, and I am hardly alone.

I will NEVER own any Apple phone as long as Apple continues to have a desire to not only keep a choke hold on the product but on information about the product as well.

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