Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 2nd May 2009 10:23 UTC, submitted by Luis
Linux Yes boys and girls, it's Net Applications time. Sure, their figures are flawed, and sure, they're misused all over the non-scientifically educated media, but that doesn't mean they do not indicate trends. One of those trends was a slowly rising popularity of Linux, which hit 0.93% market share in August 2008, only to sink back again during the following months. Well, it's April May 2009 now, and Linux has finally crossed the 1% market share line!
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OEMs
by nickelbackro on Sat 2nd May 2009 12:03 UTC
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2009-04-12

While this is impressive for a DIY OS like GNU/Linux the only way to success is to have a couple of OEMs on board selling systems with GOOD distros (No Xandros or Linpus).

Most people I've met who are older than me need instruction on even downloading software from the web. They are incapable of even installing something simple like firefox. I've actually shown someone at my work step by step how to download Avira Antivir when their Mcaffe subscription ran out and when they got home (after taking notes) still couldn't do it. So to expect the general public to repartition or even run a Wubi installer under Ubuntu, sadly, is too much to ask.

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RE: OEMs
by eksasol on Sat 2nd May 2009 14:57 in reply to "OEMs"
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2009-04-05

Most people I've met who are older than me need instruction on even downloading software from the web. They are incapable of even installing something simple like firefox. I've actually shown someone at my work step by step how to download Avira Antivir when their Mcaffe subscription ran out and when they got home (after taking notes) still couldn't do it. So to expect the general public to repartition or even run a Wubi installer under Ubuntu, sadly, is too much to ask.

I help other people on computers a lot too, but I still choose to believe its not that Linux is hard to use, but Microsoft has such a large culture and people are used it. Since you say they have problem installing the software its more of a universal model than a specific OS. In a supposed example, if Linux has switched place with Microsoft, the "mass" Linux users who never used Windows in their life before could find it difficult to use. And it is with all the hidden and scattered options.

Edited 2009-05-02 15:05 UTC

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RE[2]: OEMs
by tech10171968 on Sat 2nd May 2009 18:18 in reply to "RE: OEMs"
tech10171968 Member since:
2007-05-22

I help other people on computers a lot too, but I still choose to believe its not that Linux is hard to use, but Microsoft has such a large culture and people are used it. Since you say they have problem installing the software its more of a universal model than a specific OS. In a supposed example, if Linux has switched place with Microsoft, the "mass" Linux users who never used Windows in their life before could find it difficult to use. And it is with all the hidden and scattered options.

I don't know why the hell you were modded down, for this is the crux of the matter. I've heard so many people saying "...but Windows is more user-friendly easier to use...". I don't believe that for a second; Windows just seems easier because most people were raised on a steady diet of Microsoft. To these folks Linux seems awfully weird and unfamiliar, so they end up running back to the Devil they know.

If you took someone who was raised on a steady diet of Linux/Solaris/Haiku/etc, and suddenly threw him in front of a Vista machine, he'd have exactly the same complaint. Could you imagine someone saying, "... but Linux is more user-friendly and easier...".

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RE: OEMs
by cyclops on Sat 2nd May 2009 23:18 in reply to "OEMs"
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

While this is impressive for a DIY OS like GNU/Linux the only way to success is to have a couple of OEMs on board selling systems with GOOD distros (No Xandros or Linpus).

Most people I've met who are older than me need instruction on even downloading software from the web. They are incapable of even installing something simple like firefox. I've actually shown someone at my work step by step how to download Avira Antivir when their Mcaffe subscription ran out and when they got home (after taking notes) still couldn't do it. So to expect the general public to repartition or even run a Wubi installer under Ubuntu, sadly, is too much to ask.


DIY OS...clearly your not referring to the OS that many companies including IBM;Oracle;Red Hat etc make money from and invest heavily in.

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RE[2]: OEMs
by nickelbackro on Sun 3rd May 2009 05:40 in reply to "RE: OEMs"
nickelbackro Member since:
2009-04-12

I meant DIY in terms of installation, i realize the great contributions of corporate sponsors and realize that linux wouldn't be quite as close to being what it is without corporations like Redhat IBM and Sun.

My point though is that so few people even know how to repartition that it isn't practical for mass market acceptance to require it, thats what OEMs are for at least for most people.

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