Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 2nd May 2009 12:08 UTC
Legal It's been relatively quiet around the whole Psystar case lately. The case is supposedly going to trial somewhere in November of this year, and the two opposing parties are probably preparing their cases. We've finally got some news on this front, as Apple is accusing Psystar of withholding financial information. Apple made its accusations in a partly censored letter to judge William Alsup.
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RE[2]: Who is behind the curtain?
by DrillSgt on Sat 2nd May 2009 18:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Who is behind the curtain?"
DrillSgt
Member since:
2005-12-02

open business is behind the curtain. We have allowed draconian laws to exist regarding software because we think its different than every thing else. But, IMHO, when you buy software, you buy a copy. Not license it. I also don't see why Apple should get to see the financial info for this company. This case is about copyright infringement and being able to do what you want with what you've bought. Including reselling it.


When you buy software, you buy the media. You can do whatever you want with that media, including re-selling it. The right to re-sell the software is not what is in question in this case, as it would have already been thrown out.

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Moredhas Member since:
2008-04-10

Personally, I think if I buy software (not bloody likely, but hypothetically), the copy I have is my collection of 1s and 0s, and I'll butcher it as much as I want. Obviously making copies and selling them as the original product, or distributing copies of commercial software freely should be illegal, because in both cases they undermine the sale of the original product (I don't feel this way about music btw - software and music are completely different). I'll do whatever I want with the copy I paid for though. Even if I want to resell it to some poor schmuck with a 20% markup, more fool him for buying second hand at a higher price than new.

I guess technically, those "Vista Transformation Packs" and that Flyakite OS X thing for Windows XP are illegal too, since they modify the operating system (at the very least they hack the themeui.dll, I think that's what it's called). I don't care though, once it's on my hard drive, whatever I do to it can't harm the original company.

I will say this, however: If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If your freedoms are that important to you, use free software, not proprietary junk.

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testman Member since:
2007-10-15

And I'll say this: if you don't like their rules, don't buy there software or sign the EULA! It doesn't matter one bit if you personally think the copy you have is yours to do with as you please, that's not the agreement you sign. When you reach the EULA where it asks you to confirm that you wish to be bound by it, stop right there!

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DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

Personally, I think if I buy software (not bloody likely, but hypothetically), the copy I have is my collection of 1s and 0s, and I'll butcher it as much as I want. Obviously making copies and selling them as the original product, or distributing copies of commercial software freely should be illegal, because in both cases they undermine the sale of the original product (I don't feel this way about music btw - software and music are completely different). I'll do whatever I want with the copy I paid for though. Even if I want to resell it to some poor schmuck with a 20% markup, more fool him for buying second hand at a higher price than new.


You are absolutely correct. You are allowed to butcher those 1's and 0's to your hearts content on your own system. As you stated however, you can not resell it as your own.

As for your copy of it, yes, you *can* sell your copy at whatever price you want to. Minus your modifications of course.

I guess technically, those "Vista Transformation Packs" and that Flyakite OS X thing for Windows XP are illegal too, since they modify the operating system (at the very least they hack the themeui.dll, I think that's what it's called). I don't care though, once it's on my hard drive, whatever I do to it can't harm the original company.


Actually since most of those are written with Visual Studio, yes, they are licensed to change and re-distribute certain dll's. themeui.dll happens to be one of those that are legal to modify and re-distribute.

I will say this, however: If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. If your freedoms are that important to you, use free software, not proprietary junk.


Exactly. When Free Software is available that does what I want, then is what I use. In other cases, due to my job, I am forced to use certain software that is proprietary in nature.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

I'm just buying the media, then Windows and OS X should only cost 27 cents. Thanks for the steep discount.

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DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

I'm just buying the media, then Windows and OS X should only cost 27 cents. Thanks for the steep discount.


According to what the law has determined, you own the media yes. You pay for a license to use the software. You buy the physical media, and a license. How about that?

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