Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th May 2009 16:56 UTC, submitted by SReilly
Oracle and SUN "Oracle's acquisition of Sun raised a lot of questions about the future of Sun's core technologies. Oracle says that it is committed to Solaris and Java, but some open source advocates are concerned about the implications for OpenOffice.org and MySQL. Ars looks at how Oracle and members of the open source software community have responded to the acquisition."
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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by chekr on Tue 5th May 2009 13:20 UTC in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
chekr
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2005-11-05

Matt! very pessimistic!

The moves on OpenSolaris lately have been great. Sun have actually made some of their fantastic technologies accessible and pleasant to use even for simple desktop use (ZFS - Time Slider for example)

I see nothing but improvement in how Sun have been moving towards a rational product set that is well integrated and easy to use (whilst keeping their other good properties), sure they were coming of a low base but they are definitely heading in the right direction.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 5th May 2009 16:28 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Matt! very pessimistic!

The moves on OpenSolaris lately have been great. Sun have actually made some of their fantastic technologies accessible and pleasant to use even for simple desktop use (ZFS - Time Slider for example)

I see nothing but improvement in how Sun have been moving towards a rational product set that is well integrated and easy to use (whilst keeping their other good properties), sure they were coming of a low base but they are definitely heading in the right direction.


But that is one product on one specific area; where Microsoft hands Sun's metaphorical ass to them on a platter is coming up with a completely integrated offering where everything links into everything else. Where setting up and configuring the software is easy and fast because there is time spent on making the software accessible. It isn't about dumbing down the experience it is realising that the vast majority of system administrators aren't UNIX guru's, companies aren't going to pay $140,000 for a UNIX guru when a very capable generic IT guy can be employed for $70,000.

As I said, there is no integration; take OpenOffice.org and Alfresco; why don't we see Sun rebrand Alfresco and sell it and support it as 'StarOffice Collaboration Server' and create a bundled deal with the StarOffice client, OpenSolaris and maybe teaming up with an organisation like Toshiba, HP or Dell to provide the underlying hardware for the end user within an enterprise organisation?

Its difficult not to get depressed given so many opportunities are there for them to take advantage but they never do - because of a lack of leadership within Sun.

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by chekr on Wed 6th May 2009 14:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
chekr Member since:
2005-11-05

I agree about the alfresco point...i think its another case of NIH :-( would have been great to see such things occur.

I'm just going to remain positive. What has been lacking at Sun (warning: armchair CEO) is leadership and product vision. Sun have many fantastic products but they just don't sell as a vision. I think Oracle gets this point and I hope they can bring some of their better qualities to the Sun product line without destroying the innovative culture and goodwill of the employees.

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