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Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Many Linux users have experience with Wine, the application compatibility layer which allows some Windows programs to run on UNIX-like machines. During Ubuntu's Open Week event, Mark Shuttleworth was asked about Wine, and how important he believes it is for the success of Ubuntu.
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ephracis
Member since:
2007-09-23

Kdenlive is not as good as Adobe Premier.
Krita is not as good as Photoshop (not even as good as GIMP IMHO).

There are TONS of media applications for Linux. But none of them are good enough for me, right now.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Kdenlive is not as good as Adobe Premier.
Krita is not as good as Photoshop (not even as good as GIMP IMHO).

There are TONS of media applications for Linux. But none of them are good enough for me, right now.


That may or may not be the case, but the Linux applications mentioned in this thread actually DO answer all of the criticisms you have so far voiced in this thread. Your criticism of Linux desktop applications is out of date.

That very much makes it sound like you are just trying to come up with criticism of Linux applications for the sake of trying to be critical and negative.

For all of the use cases that you actually mentioned, Linux applications have an answer.

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ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

That may or may not be the case, but the Linux applications mentioned in this thread actually DO answer all of the criticisms you have so far voiced in this thread. Your criticism of Linux desktop applications is out of date.

That very much makes it sound like you are just trying to come up with criticism of Linux applications for the sake of trying to be critical and negative.

For all of the use cases that you actually mentioned, Linux applications have an answer.

No, I actually tried to be very clear on that one.

Two things.

First: the reason why I did not use those programs on Linux for those very small tasks (nothing really complicated) was because I just can't get a hang around the applications. I don't find them easy to use. Highly subjective, a very personal opinion. (also, if you would read my post further down you would know that I don't mix Qt apps in a Gnome environment, so I am more interested in GTK-based applications).

However, my other point was that for more complex tasks nothing still beats the applications from Adobe.

And why would I try to be negative when I do my absolutely, very best to point out that I have total faith in that it will be fixed in a near future. It's not like I am saying that Linux sucks and it cannot be fixed. I guess this is the downside of textual conversations.

Edited 2009-05-06 04:33 UTC

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Jokel Member since:
2006-06-01

Yeah, but it IS good enough for 99,99% of the users...

I mean - how many users you know that can afford Photoshop AND Premiere, and really absolutely need them too?

I did do some work as troubleshooter in a few large Windows/Unix/Linux environments, but only very few users actually have to use Photoshop. Even a smaller group ever needed to use Premiere. Absolutely nobody I knew used both. And I am speaking about a VERY large corporate environment...

So - although you have a point, the exceptionally small user base you represent makes that point very personal and not that big in the broader picture...

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ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Most people I know don't buy them. They get them from TPB. But then I live in Sweden where piracy is really big. I don't know if this is true for other countries but the only people I know that pay for Photoshop are schools.

I do know a lot of people that would probably be able to use Krita or GIMP for what they do with Photoshop, that's true. Although I doubt it is 99,9% but it's the majority.

Still, I would love to see Linux become king on multimedia. Either by Adobe going multiplatform or some Linux application that do a better job than Adobe.

Other than games what most people that I talk to miss on Linux are the products from Adobe. And the features they use that GIMP or Krita doesn't have (correct me here) are stuff like those really easy tools for emboss, shadow, etc (don't know what it's called but last time I used it you accessed it by right-clicking on the layers). Another great feature is the ability to merge a number of photos into one and Photoshop will distort and change the photos so that they match each other. All done by magic. Very popular for photographers I know.

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