Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th May 2009 17:41 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Debian and its clones Via LWN, we found a blog post of a Debian maintainer which announces a new package: EGLIBC, a compatible reimplementation of the GNU glibc which "which will soon replace the GNU C Library". Apparently the primary reason is the sadly famous bad maintainership aptitude of Ulrich Drepper, the main libc maintainer.
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overworked and underpaid
by Rugxulo on Wed 6th May 2009 20:15 UTC
Rugxulo
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2007-10-09

I think we all know developers who are brilliant but can't suffer "fools" easily. They can be a bit tempermental, but I think they get overwhelmed at all they have to do, and little bug reports often "bug" them more than the bugs themselves!

Typically when someone leads a multi-OS project, they must care about all platforms (or at least not actively hate them). When they start getting overly partial, crabby, and not fixing bugs, it usually means they need to take a break / hiatus from it.

I do think it's a bit overreacting, he wasn't that bad, I've seen worse. Still, you almost have to be a diplomat to work on community projects, and it's not easy.

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RE: overworked and underpaid
by dagw on Wed 6th May 2009 20:24 in reply to "overworked and underpaid"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

I think we all know developers who are brilliant but can't suffer "fools" easily.

I think we should also all agree that people like that shouldn't be let anywhere near anything that even vaguely looks like a management position. Just because you are an amazing programmer doesn't mean you will do an amazing job managing a programming project.

Looking back at the really great managers I've had in my career non of them where great programmers, and all of them would be the first to admit that. But they knew how to organize and get the most out of people who where great programmers and how to work around those peoples weaknesses so that they could focus on their strength.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

It's too bad I cant mod you up because you speak the truth.

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tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

"I think we all know developers who are brilliant but can't suffer "fools" easily.

I think we should also all agree that people like that shouldn't be let anywhere near anything that even vaguely looks like a management position. Just because you are an amazing programmer doesn't mean you will do an amazing job managing a programming project.

Looking back at the really great managers I've had in my career non of them where great programmers, and all of them would be the first to admit that. But they knew how to organize and get the most out of people who where great programmers and how to work around those peoples weaknesses so that they could focus on their strength.
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I completely agree.

We had a guy like this in the Kernel Team at NeXT. He was fired for being such a complete a-hole and non-productive in a team environment.

During the Apple merger Engineering weighed the pros and cons of his Mach talent versus his Personality.

If my memory serves me correctly, he was given a contract to sign with several stipulations in it. I can't recall if he ever signed it as I was busy in Professional Services and had contracts to maintain and grow.

With the demise of Apple's Enterprise Team you can figure out how poorly the overall team was managed--the reason I left before the boat in the group sprung a massive leak.

Edited 2009-05-07 00:09 UTC

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Well, from the cherry picked examples, they didn't seem to be foolish questions. And in several instances he wouldn't admit to a problem he'd already fixed in CVS. That's more than not suffering fools. Thats a denial of reality.

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RE: overworked and underpaid
by Soulbender on Wed 6th May 2009 21:24 in reply to "overworked and underpaid"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

I think we all know developers who are brilliant but can't suffer "fools" easily.


There's a difference between fools and individuals who (correctly) point out problems with your changes and want to know why you did what you did.

I do think it's a bit overreacting, he wasn't that bad, I've seen worse.


Are you kidding? He makes Linus and Theo look civilized.
"If you want answers, pay me". WTF?!?

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Rugxulo Member since:
2007-10-09

There's a difference between fools and individuals who (correctly) point out problems with your changes and want to know why you did what you did.


That's why I put "fools" in quotes. It's not my agreement with the term.

Are you kidding? He makes Linus and Theo look civilized. "If you want answers, pay me". WTF?!?


While I disagree with his response, it's true that you can't expect him to bend over backwards and drop everything without incentive. It's his right to not do what every random person wants. He has other things to do too. Sure, he could've been nicer, but nobody's perfect.

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